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It all started with the UN resolution 181 (United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine): Jews accepted, Arabs didn’t. For the latter “it was all or nothing” and nothing was what they got. Now, did all Arabs share this opinion? No, there were certainly many who were more than willing to live along side with their Jewish neighbours, however Arab political and religious leaders had a different agenda and so decided not only to instil hate against the Jews but mainly to condemn their own people to decades of misery and lack of a nation to call their own.
Please see below the State that Palestinians could have had:
The State of Israel was established on the 14th of May 1948. Shortly after, it was attacked by 5 Arab States (Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon & Syria), who lost the war but commenced a series of events known as the Arab-Israeli conflict. 62 years have passed, the conflict persists and the common Palestinian still has no nation. Why? Because the Palestinian Politicians have no interest in running a country since by not doing so they are getting rich through international donations: the US has committed, from 1993 to 2004, more than $1.3 Billion; the EU donated, from 1993 to 2001, $4 Billion...now do the math (for more, click Here).
One of the proofs that Philistian politicians have no interest in governing a nation, in administering a land, is the way they stall around the table of peace negotiations, by insisting upon the same old demands (knowing, praying, that a compromise will never be reached):
Jerusalem – Muslims claim this city as “the third holiest site in Islam” based on the writings (fabricated, during the 1930's, for political and religious purposes) of the grand mufti Mohammed Amin al-Husseini and not on the Al-Quran (where the city is not once mentioned). Arabs occupied this city, then they rejected it (by rejecting the Partition Plan), and now they want it as their capital knowing that it will never happen (not even the Israeli Left was willing to concede this – see Ehud Olmert's Peace Map click Here). Why don’t they choose Bethlehem as their capital?
Palestinian refugees – If PA would stop being corrupt and finally accept to build a nation these refugees could actually go to a country of their own. I ask, why the insistence upon allocating these people in Jewish Land (where their status would never change)? Wouldn’t they be better off in a Palestinian Land, to call home (with full citizen rights)?
Palestine doesn’t want a state because for its politicians “money is the sweetest hangover” and the Palestinian people, they were supposed to serve, are nothing but an instrument through which they raise more cash for their pockets (reminding me of African Leaders and their profitable Poverty Propagandas, with the sole difference that they already have their nations). Shame on you, Mahmoud Abbas & Co! Shame on you, Ismail Haniyeh & Co!
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Hello Maximus…
ReplyDeleteIf only you didn’t come across as a wishy-washy neutral ;)
I like the map…I almost expected Anderson Cooper to start moving it around zooming in and out…
You and I both know this story has legs as they say far longer than 1948…It is of biblical proportions…literally…I do note your nod in that direction with the use of the word “Philistian”…
Of course the US and Germany both continue to provide funds etc to Israel…I wonder if there should have been provision made for the Palestinians as well…since the beginning…however I think this would not have made a difference…
You are a bit pessimistic about the Palestinian un-leaders than I…I think they are doing things out of hate… not just for mere monitory reward…So I pick hate and you pick greed…perhaps both?
So how does one solve the problem?
Thanks for stopping by!! Do hope to hear from you soon, and most of all to see you in Oslo.
ReplyDeleteDelicate situation indeed. To me it seem like the Palestinians and their leaders are a bit out of sync.
Hi Max,
ReplyDeleteIsn't it typical, once you delve into the problems of a country, it all comes down to cash - how much, how little, who got what, who didn't get any, how much did one deal cost and what was the cost, etc.?
As I told LSX, my knowledge on this is somewhat limited. Even though you have explained it lucidly, I still don't have enough info to make an informed decision.
It's like reading the same novel over and over again and wondering if the outcome will ever change. Certain factions won't stop until they have eradicated what they call the enemy.
"Politicians have no interest in running a country since by not doing so they are getting rich through international donations: the US has committed, from 1993 to 2004, more than $1.3 Billion; the EU donated, from 1993 to 2001, $4 Billion..."
What? :-o Not good!
"Palestine doesn’t want a state because for its politicians “money is the sweetest hangover.”
Love that statement.
With that, I will bow out gracefully, for this subject is out of my comprehension, but I appreciate elucidation of such a subject.
I echo LSX, "How does one solve the problem?"
Freedom Cheers!
Hi LSus :D!
ReplyDelete"If only you didn’t come across as a wishy-washy neutral ;)"
LOL LOL...you kill me, man *nodding*...
"I like the map…I almost expected Anderson Cooper to start moving it around zooming in and out…"
LOL I know what you mean. And you forgot John King: he also likes to move those maps around, zooming in and out etc...
"You and I both know this story has legs as they say far longer than 1948…It is of biblical proportions…literally…I do note your nod in that direction with the use of the word “Philistian”…"
Indeed, you and I know it well; but mentioning the Bible hasn't produced any quality fruits so...the strategy must be changed.
LOL the use of "Philistian" refers to something else...care to guess its meaning?
"Of course the US and Germany both continue to provide funds etc to Israel…I wonder if there should have been provision made for the Palestinians as well…since the beginning…however I think this would not have made a difference…"
The funds provided to Israel are not donations: they are an exchange (let's not forget that Israel provides a lot of things to the US and Germany as well); whereas the funds given to PA are nearly a hand-out, aren't they? PA doesn't seem to offer much in return...
"You are a bit pessimistic about the Palestinian un-leaders than I…I think they are doing things out of hate… not just for mere monitory reward…So I pick hate and you pick greed…perhaps both?"
You think they are doing things out of hate, and I am the pessimistic one lol? I am not sure all the Palestinian leaders hare Israel; I tend to think their hate is a fait-divers. I really believe that the root of all these disrespect towards the Palestinian people is greed. And PA uses Israel for its propaganda to suck more money out of the West and the Arab World.
"So how does one solve the problem?"
I don't see a problem, I see a solution...
I would suggest the PA would stop stalling, would cut the BS and really negotiate to have a nation; cause Israel already has its own state (meaning that no matter what PA does to disrupt things, at the end of the day Palestinians are the ones who do not have a home; who are spread living in refugee camps, and who suffer the most. If they are willing to walk in circles for another 62 years...it's their loss. Besides it will eventually prove the world their real intentions and goals). I would also suggest PA to stop victimising itself and blaming Israel for its lack of organisation, for its corruption, and proclivity for violence (to hide their lack of ability to govern a country).
LS, I love talking to you; so thanks for this conversation :D!
Cheers
Hey Renny :D!
ReplyDelete"Thanks for stopping by!! Do hope to hear from you soon, and most of all to see you in Oslo."
You are most welcome *bowing*. You got it :D.
"Delicate situation indeed. To me it seem like the Palestinians and their leaders are a bit out of sync."
Indeed they are...
Renny, thank you so much for your input on this matter :D.
Cheers
Hi Lady A :D!
ReplyDelete"Isn't it typical, once you delve into the problems of a country, it all comes down to cash - how much, how little, who got what, who didn't get any, how much did one deal cost and what was the cost, etc.?"
Yes, darling; it all comes down to cash. It's sad, but true.
"As I told LSX, my knowledge on this is somewhat limited. Even though you have explained it lucidly, I still don't have enough info to make an informed decision."
I understand perfectly. It is not an easy subject; and I suspect you might not be alone.
"Certain factions won't stop until they have eradicated what they call the enemy."
You are right. But at what cost? The people's...
"[on Billions of donations] What? :-o Not good!"
Not good at all, girl. But that's what happens...and I suspect that isn't the whole story; nevertheless it makes us wonder, doesn't it?
"Love that statement."
"Money is the sweetest hangover; hey, I don't wanna get over!" know that rap song?
"With that, I will bow out gracefully, for this subject is out of my comprehension, but I appreciate elucidation of such a subject."
Thank you for your honesty; and mainly thank you for humbly commenting *bowing*.
"I echo LSX, "How does one solve the problem?""
As I told LS: "I don't see a problem, I see a solution...
I would suggest the PA would stop stalling, would cut the BS and really negotiate to have a nation; cause Israel already has its own state (meaning that no matter what PA does to disrupt things, at the end of the day Palestinians are the ones who do not have a home; who are spread living in refugee camps, and who suffer the most. If they are willing to walk in circles for another 62 years...it's their loss. Besides it will eventually prove the world their real intentions and goals). I would also suggest PA to stop victimising itself and blaming Israel for its lack of organisation, for its corruption, and proclivity for violence (to hide their lack of ability to govern a country)."
Lady A, thank you so much for wisdom; you made me admire you even more *bowing*.
Freedom Cheers
Max, the EU funding angle is something new to me. This has me wondering what would have happened if the money had been used to bribe the Arab states into assimilating the Palestinians. There are other sources of money/resources coming to the Palestinians from places like Iran, while many work outside the territories and remit money to relatives. Wondering what the overall picture looks like ...
ReplyDeleteJust wondering if a Palestinian state is even feasible.
Hi Looney :D!
ReplyDelete"This has me wondering what would have happened if the money had been used to bride the Arab states into assimilating the Palestinians."
This is a very good point. Do you think Palestinians would want to be assimilated by the Arab States? Because if they would, then this conflict would be reduced to one thing only: the exercise of Anti-Semitism (which was the hobby of Mufti Al-Husseini).
"There are other sources of money/resources coming to the Palestinians from places like Iran, while many work outside the territories and remit money to relatives. Wondering what the overall picture looks like ..."
True, true. But if they received funds from Iran and from emigrants only, things would be entirely different on a political level, wouldn't they?
"Just wondering if a Palestinian state is even feasible."
I think many wonder about the same thing. A Palestinian state could be feasible if the Palestinian Authority wanted to run a country; however from where I'm standing I can see that PA doesn't want a State, since it is more profitable to maintain their current status (and it is convenient for the Arab League that they remain that way).
Looney, excellent comment: thank you :D!
Cheers
Max:
ReplyDeleteYou nailed it this time, and I don't mean on the cross. Money, greed, hate, it's a story without end. I have to say that I have to agree with all of the comments: money, hate, an old novel read over and over again. Exactly. But I must also quote my Egyptian friend who passed away several years ago, "Americans will never understand the mid-East." By golly, I believe his was right.
Happy trails.
Hey Max! How are you sweetie. I'm fine. Again, I'm sorry for not visiting often, busy at the store. I've got a new helper though and things will be back to normal (blogging) in a few days, I hope.
ReplyDeleteThanks for always coming over. I wish you a fantastic weekend too.
Take care. *hugs*