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“Mai 68 ne fut pas un mouvement révolutionnaire mais antiautoritaire. On voulait reformer la société. La jeneusse tout entière s’est reconnue dans cette envie d’aventure commnune. On oublie ce qu’était la France de l’époque. Les femmes n’avaient pas encore le droit d’aller travailler en pantaloon…on y était libre, pourtant, il ya avait des interdis partouts. Mais ça, les parties n’y comprenaient rien.” (Source: Dany, la légende)
“May 68 was not a revolutionary movement but an anti-authoritarian one. We wanted to reform the society. Everywhere, the youth identified itself with this common cause. We tend to forget what France was like at that time: women did not have the right to wear pants when going to work yet…we were free yet there were a lot of restrictions. And that was what the parties didn’t grasp.” (Source: Dany, the legend)
After the World War II society became extremely conservative: religion, patriotism and respect for the authority – father and government – were being excessively imposed on youngsters. Therefore the youth rose and said “Ça suffit! Enough! Basta!”…
Students all over the world organised a series of lock-downs, school occupations and closures and demonstrations in order to fight for change (in mentalities) and against social injustice (class and racial discrimination; violation of human rights, women’s rights, to name a few). The young were decided to change the world forever, which they did; for their legacy to us was: equality, sexual liberation and human rights.
2008…I look around and I feel like becoming a ferocious critic of today’s youth…
Portugal 1968-1974: our youth fought against the fascist regime; they fought for freedom of speech, freedom of all sorts of expression (verbal, sexual, artistic); they fought for democracy.
Portugal 1974-2008: our youth still dwells in the revolution of 1974; they chant past events, the acquired freedoms; without even cogitating of creating new causes to fight for…I look at them and I see them leaning against the 25th of April palm tree.
I watched on TV, last month, a student demonstration (in Lisbon) and it was quite interesting to hear the youngsters’ demands…they were asked the following question “Why are you demonstrating here today?” the answers were “Epá [1], because” “Epá, we are being treated as dogs. It is unfair! And we won’t allow it any longer!” “Epá, I dunno…I guess the situation sucks, pá [1]!” and then an eight years old kid answers “The Education Ministry is forcing us to drink low quality chocolate milk – we want first quality milk; they took the cakes with cream off the cafeteria and made us eat dry cakes – we want our traditional cakes backs; we have no computers in our classes – we must be the only country in the European Union with poor Academic conditions; our desks are bad for our backs – we are the future of this country…we demand for better Education!”
1 out of 4 presented fairly good arguments…and he was 10 years younger than the other 3.
I miss the days when young people paid cult to being positive, eloquent, articulated, cultivated; to being interested in politics, to fight for what they believed in…it was quite common to see groups of young people reading and passionately discussing literature; reciting poetry in piazzas, in dorms…where have they gone to?
I am presently under the impression that a growing number of young people pays cult to suicide, shooting others in High Schools, Playstation and anorexia…what has the world come to?
I wish the majority of our youth would be more like the young activists who engage in modern causes such as: fighting against AIDS, racism and discrimination; volunteering to help children and the elderly; giving assistance to the homeless; participating in the creation of policies to help young people making responsible decisions concerning their sexual health; building houses, water pumps in third world countries, and so forth…
How about you: what are your thoughts concerning today’s Youth?
[1] Epá, pá – Portuguese locution meaning in this case, «man! Dude!»
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Interesting post...I don't know what to say here hmmmm...Today's youth? I know nothing about Finnish youth, but about Indonesian youth? Hmmm...some of them don't even have the privilege of getting good education, so it's easy for some people to propagate them into doing bad things. However, regular education can't replace moral education. Moral education is very important, but as to how to impart it hmmm...I think parents should do it firsthand...if not parents, then probably close relatives who give good examples.
ReplyDeleteNow I'm rambling. Pardon me if I can't give good examples he he he he...my brain's rather tired.
Hey Amelia,
ReplyDeleteThank you for taking the time to read my article (I know that school has been taking most of your time and focus) *bowing*!
Many times the parents are not the ones to blame for their derailing children; who choose to do the wrong thing and then find excuses to justify their wrongdoings (and blaming their parents is part of that justification strategy). Shouldn't they make use of their own intellect and choose to do the right thing? There is always an option...
"Now I'm rambling. Pardon me if I can't give good examples he he he he...my brain's rather tired." - lol but I like it when you ramble; I learn a lot from it :). There is nothing to pardon, girl; I loved your comment and I appreciated your taking the time to make it :D! Thanks *bowing*...
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Hmm...I think our youth aren't being taught the same values that former generations were taught. In many cases, both parents are working out of the home, and aren't there to supervise, instruct, and set an example. I think if the youth are taught good values, they will cling to them. Some things I think today's youth have difficulty learning because of the society we live in: respect for parents, discipline and hard work, respect for the law and those in authority, honesty, morality. I'm not saying that all youth lack these values, I'm just saying that with the world we live in today, it is more difficult for them to learn these things.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I do think that we have an extraordinary generation of youth. They are faced with a bombardment of undesirable things that have never been seen before in history. Drugs, pornography, sexual immorality are all rampant in today's society. They have more information at their disposal than ever before because of the internet. But they are accomplishing great things, despite the forces that would drag them down in to addiction, or poverty, or gang violence. It's a tough world out there for our youth. We must do everything we can to help them survive it.
Hey D;
ReplyDelete"Hmm...I think our youth aren't being taught the same values that former generations were taught." - in most cases I would agree with you. I am only 30 but I already see the differences between me (my generation) and these teenagers/twenty-and-something youngsters I see today. But the most interesting thing is that kids until 12/13 are great kids, with great minds and souls. So what happened when today's teens and twenty-somethings were being raised?
In many cases, both parents are working out of the home, and aren't there to supervise, instruct, and set an example. I think if the youth are taught good values, they will cling to them." - I am also for stay home moms (until they go to school; and then work part-time; and when they become 15, a mom can go back to work full-time; cause if the kid is not shaped until he is 15 he will never be); however there are pretty good kids out there whose parents work out of the home leaving them without any supervision. Good values can be taught regardless the working status of the parent (the proof of that is the existence of amazing kids, just like you stated at the end of your comment).
"Some things I think today's youth have difficulty learning because of the society we live in: respect for parents, discipline and hard work, respect for the law and those in authority, honesty, morality. I'm not saying that all youth lack these values, I'm just saying that with the world we live in today, it is more difficult for them to learn these things." - but what I would like to know is: are the parents fully responsible for this, or do the kids have some accountability for their actions? What happens when parents teach their kids what is the right thing to do, and yet their offspring engages in criminal, immoral actions? Who is to blame?
"Having said that, I do think that we have an extraordinary generation of youth." - I totally agree with you.
"But they are accomplishing great things, despite the forces that would drag them down in to addiction, or poverty, or gang violence. It's a tough world out there for our youth. We must do everything we can to help them survive it." - I hear you :).
Thank you so much for sharing your views on this, Delirious :D!
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Hello Max;
ReplyDeleteVery interesting and well written article, it actually goes with my current article in a rather slanted manner… LOL
I do a lot of volunteer work with youth and young adults so this is a topic that is close to my heart. I know many outstanding young people who are “world changers”. I also know many that would be classified by most as leeches upon society. The vast majority are in between.
Since the creation of humanity we have gone through these pendulum swings in the human experience. While we may develop more sophisticated societies and technologies we are still human with the same weaknesses and strengths. You can read these kinds of things throughout all of recorded history.
The current issue is one of “bread and circuses”. Many societies have become so affluent that even when there are a large magnitude of troublesome issues the general society can still maintain an equilibrium (for a time).
Food, shelter, education, healthcare, careers, and family life (the “bread”) are things easily attained for most persons in those societies. At the same time entertainment (“circuses”) permeates our societies. Media, music, TV, movies, internet, computer games, arts, magazines, books, sports, etc. saturate our daily lives. Some would say we are entertaining ourselves to death.
With all of this people feel they “don’t have enough time”, the amount of time has not changed but our expectation of what we will do with that time has developed the concept of “leisure time” and “retirement” which have become predominant desires.
While there certainly are multitudinous “great causes” in general most people are “happy with what they have” and have made themselves “to busy”.
Much of this has lead to an attitude of appeasement among a large portion of society. Wherever the “squeaky wheel” is just fix it with a bit of grease (money or laws that permit whatever is desired, morality is often greased over).
Yet the pendulum swinging back the other way is inevitable. “Bread and circuses” cannot satisfy long term. Humans are designed with a need for more; indeed the “bread and circuses” are primarily “white noise” in our lives.
Another factor is those of the world that are not from these affluent societies; the poor and also those who are growing in ascendancy. Since they are growing in primacy and also have a much larger population base there will certainly be a massive shift in the world as we know it.
I can actually relate to this issue in another way, as an adult. I certainly didn’t care about changing the world when I was young. Yet today I am deeply concerned about issues. When I express these concerns some people are warmly receptive. Others find them not relevant to their own lives and then don’t care. Then there is the group that is hostile, they would prefer not to hear about these issues. They want talk that is fluff, ideas that are not complex and not from what they see as “pushy Christians”. They don’t want these kinds of ideas expressed in the market place of ideas.
Many of our freedoms are under attack by those that think in that way, they don’t really want freedom of speech, and they certainly don’t want freedom of faith if it is a faith that says it is the only way….
For the first 27 years of my life I was a negative drag upon my society, since then over the past 16 or so years I believe I have been a positive part of my society, far compensating for my slow start. So there is hope, of course it is God Who works in my life today…
To adults that are concerned about the youth of today I say “get involved in their lives” and “challenge them”, they want more in life than “bread and circuses” they just have trouble finding it thru the “white noise”….
Oh yes I almost forgot, that Caravaggio could sure paint…. LOL
Excellent article Max; thought provoking….
Hi Max!
ReplyDeleteOff topic:
thx for the comment!
Here is my response for You.
Your Italian is very very good, but You don't grasp italian's idiom not yet.
Max, I don't adore award, meme, tag and viral-linx, alas
the bloging is made this way...
saluti da italia,
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Max,
ReplyDeleteI think students feel that protesting is a rite of passage. Although one has to choose one's battles, they don't understand this distinction. They feel that they should fight for everything, instead of fighting against their personal demons in which they succumb. Sure it's great to stand up and be heard, but sometimes it's nothing more than hot air that gives lift to their angst.
"I am presently under the impression that a growing number of young people pays cult to suicide, shooting others in High Schools, Playstation and anorexia…what has the world come to?"
The disenfranchised youth are no longer passive, they are packing heat. (guns) It is an unfortunate state of affairs when kids can't go to school without wearing Kevlar. Some Parent Activist Groups blame it on heavy metal/rap music, but I think the onus should be on the parents. They should communicate to their children, watch for signs of depression, unhappiness, etc. Why are they feeling disenfranchised in the first place? Trace it back to the source. Quash it before it becomes a problem. Society usually pays for disenfranchised youth when they suddenly explode it a fit of anger compounded by gunfire and lots of loss pain, emotional and spiritual destruction.
"I wish the majority of our youth would be more like the young activists who engage in modern causes such as: fighting against AIDS, racism and discrimination; volunteering to help children and the elderly; giving assistance to the homeless; participating in the creation of policies to help young people making responsible decisions concerning their sexual health; building houses, water pumps in third world countries, and so forth.."
From your lips to Gods ears.
Kudos for this eloquent piece my dear.
Power To The People Cheers!
Hi LS;
ReplyDelete"Very interesting and well written article, it actually goes with my current article in a rather slanted manner… LOL" - LOL I just came back from your place...I loved your article :). Thank you *bowing*...
"I do a lot of volunteer work with youth and young adults so this is a topic that is close to my heart. I know many outstanding young people who are “world changers”. I also know many that would be classified by most as leeches upon society. The vast majority are in between." - I hear you, my friend. And I find it fantastic that you work so closely with youngsters; congrats :D!
"Since the creation of humanity we have gone through these pendulum swings in the human experience. While we may develop more sophisticated societies and technologies we are still human with the same weaknesses and strengths. You can read these kinds of things throughout all of recorded history." - indeed; times change, technologies change yet our weaknesses and strengths, vices and addictions, desires remain practically the same...
"Food, shelter, education, healthcare, careers, and family life (the “bread”) are things easily attained for most persons in those societies. At the same time entertainment (“circuses”) permeates our societies. Media, music, TV, movies, internet, computer games, arts, magazines, books, sports, etc. saturate our daily lives. Some would say we are entertaining ourselves to death." - but how do you explain the fact that there are young people who live in the middle of all that and yet come out right...and how to you explain the fact that kids until 12 seem (nowadays) to be stronger, more intelligent (knowing what they want from life at early age) than their teens (and twenty-something) counter-parts?
"With all of this people feel they “don’t have enough time”, the amount of time has not changed but our expectation of what we will do with that time has developed the concept of “leisure time” and “retirement” which have become predominant desires." - I agree with you. However I would like to add that we have the power to manage our times; I often hear my friends say "I don't have time for this or for that" whereas I have time to do all the things I have to do (people are not willing to compromise, not even with their own time; nor to prioritise).
"While there certainly are multitudinous “great causes” in general most people are “happy with what they have” and have made themselves “to busy”." - I see what you mean...but what about kids? If they don't engage in "great causes" what is there for them to do? Play nintendo all day, chat in the internet all day, sms their friends all the time? Think of clothing, of loosing weight? Surrender to futility?
"Yet the pendulum swinging back the other way is inevitable. “Bread and circuses” cannot satisfy long term. Humans are designed with a need for more; indeed the “bread and circuses” are primarily “white noise” in our lives." - I like this sentence; and I totally agree with you; we were designed for deeper things, deeds and thoughts. We must find the equilibrium between the "bread and circuses" (cause I agree that we must provide our homes and we must have fun, but we must not focus our entire existence on this...succumbing to bread and circus is the same as sticking your head in the sand).
"I can actually relate to this issue in another way, as an adult. I certainly didn’t care about changing the world when I was young. Yet today I am deeply concerned about issues. When I express these concerns some people are warmly receptive. Others find them not relevant to their own lives and then don’t care. Then there is the group that is hostile, they would prefer not to hear about these issues. They want talk that is fluff, ideas that are not complex and not from what they see as “pushy Christians”. They don’t want these kinds of ideas expressed in the market place of ideas." - I know where you are coming from. But youngsters in previous generations to yours wanted to change the world, and they did it; so what happened afterwards to leave youth so inertial to the point of not wanting to care about fighting for new causes? Did they lean on the achievements of the past?
And why are you deeply concerned about these issues today? What changed?
"Many of our freedoms are under attack by those that think in that way, they don’t really want freedom of speech, and they certainly don’t want freedom of faith if it is a faith that says it is the only way…." - lol *nodding*...I understand that people may not want to see their options taken away; and when you state that there is only one way...you are, in a sense, taking their freedom of choice away too...
"For the first 27 years of my life I was a negative drag upon my society, since then over the past 16 or so years I believe I have been a positive part of my society, far compensating for my slow start. So there is hope, of course it is God Who works in my life today…" - this is beautiful :). Thank you for sharing this with us :D!
"To adults that are concerned about the youth of today I say “get involved in their lives” and “challenge them”, they want more in life than “bread and circuses” they just have trouble finding it thru the “white noise”…." - this is a good advice, my friend *bowing*!
"Oh yes I almost forgot, that Caravaggio could sure paint…. LOL" - LOL LOL he sure could :D! And this is the darker version of the painting, cause the brighter one is simply amazing (but then my blog would be X rated LOL LOL)...the details...Madonna mia!
"Excellent article Max; thought provoking…." - thank you, LS...*bowing*! :D
I absolutely loved your comment; thank you for sharing your opinion with all of us :D!
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Hello Hanna,
ReplyDeleteYou are most welcome, dear :D! I will read it, thanks for the link :).
LOL You are right on that one: I still have a lot of learning to do :D! I like your honesty; I am impressed :D!
In fact you seemed quite disappointed at blogging being made that way....
Ooh, such warm hugs: thank you *hugs*!
A tra poco!
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"I think students feel that protesting is a rite of passage. Although one has to choose one's battles, they don't understand this distinction. They feel that they should fight for everything, instead of fighting against their personal demons in which they succumb. Sure it's great to stand up and be heard, but sometimes it's nothing more than hot air that gives lift to their angst." - very well put! That is exactly what I thought when I saw those teenagers explaining (not) their reason to be demonstrating in the streets of Lisbon *nodding*. At least they should've told the truth "I wanted to cut class!" it would've been more logical.
"The disenfranchised youth are no longer passive, they are packing heat. (guns) It is an unfortunate state of affairs when kids can't go to school without wearing Kevlar." - *nodding* it is sad...the world is going crazy! But what worries me the most is what is coming next...cause history has taught us that after extreme societal behaviours comes extremely conservative political measures; then what? May 2068?
"Some Parent Activist Groups blame it on heavy metal/rap music, but I think the onus should be on the parents." - I don't think that rap and metal music are liable for this, cause I have listened to punk music, rock music, rap, hip hop since forever and I am not a degenerate person; and I never was a degenerate kid; why? Cause my mom was there for me. This being sad I totally agree with you the onus is definitely on the parents.
"They should communicate to their children, watch for signs of depression, unhappiness, etc. Why are they feeling disenfranchised in the first place? Trace it back to the source. Quash it before it becomes a problem. Society usually pays for disenfranchised youth when they suddenly explode it a fit of anger compounded by gunfire and lots of loss pain, emotional and spiritual destruction." - exactly, exactly. Parents need to stop focusing on themselves; they need to understand that from the minute they have children these come first; their focus must be 100% on their offspring. Having kids is a great responsibility, it is not to be taken lightly.
"From your lips to Gods ears." - Amen, sista :)!
"Kudos for this eloquent piece my dear." - thank you, thank you *bowing*!! :D
Black Panther Cheers!
Max,
ReplyDelete"At least they should've told the truth "I wanted to cut class!" it would've been more logical."
Ha ha ha. You crack me up.
"...it is sad...the world is going crazy! But what worries me the most is what is coming next...cause history has taught us that after extreme societal behaviours comes extremely conservative political measures; then what? May 2068?"
I know. I have also heard that society was much worse in the past, i.e. World War I, WWII, French Revolution, any war, etc. Countries will always be at war with other countries and sometimes we have to just ride out the storms of the past and know that whatever happens is for the good of the whole. We can't change certain tangibles in society, but we can change our reactions to them.
"I don't think that rap and metal music are liable for this, cause I have listened to punk music, rock music, rap, hip hop since forever and I am not a degenerate person; and I never was a degenerate kid; why? Cause my mom was there for me."
Exactly. We are a product of our environment. Is it filled with love or hate? The end result dictates our sensibilities. A child that doesn't feel love will seek it elsewhere; hence the popularity of gangs.
"Parents need to stop focusing on themselves; they need to understand that from the minute they have children these come first; their focus must be 100% on their offspring. Having kids is a great responsibility, it is not to be taken lightly."
Preach it my sista!
Free Huey & Geronimo Cheers
May 1968 still as a lot of influence in France, whether its criticized or praised.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, the quote is from Daniel Cohn-Bendit, a French-German student (at the time) who was one of the leader of the movement and who is now the head of the German Green party. Just for info ;)
My parents were too young for May 68 (they were about 10) but they do remember playing with stones in the streets... against the cops of course! :D
French love their revolutions. We (or should I say "they"? I changed in Canada!)don't believe in slow change but in radical revolution. Anytime a strike last for a while, people call for a riot... which almost never happens.
I think we just don't have the ideology and the hope anymore... sad in a way.
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Ha ha ha. You crack me up." - lol lol lol...well, I know teens all too well *nodding*...
"We can't change certain tangibles in society, but we can change our reactions to them." - exactly; the secret of coping with life is the way we react to its events. And this is where our society is failing a bit: people do not wish to make that extra effort to cope with existence...they think that life must dance to their music, without figuring out that we are the ones who must dance to life's music (we just need to choose the right choreography)!
"Exactly. We are a product of our environment. Is it filled with love or hate? The end result dictates our sensibilities. A child that doesn't feel love will seek it elsewhere; hence the popularity of gangs." - I hear you, girl!
"Preach it my sista!" - can I get an Amen! lol....
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Hey Zhu,
ReplyDelete"May 1968 still as a lot of influence in France, whether its criticized or praised." - well, I kinda agreed with the spirit of the student revolution, the problem was that political groups tried to take advantage of the revolutionary wave and things got a bit messy...still, the genesis of May 68 was a good one.
"By the way, the quote is from Daniel Cohn-Bendit, a French-German student (at the time) who was one of the leader of the movement and who is now the head of the German Green party. Just for info ;)" - information is always welcome *bowing*; specially to our guests, cause I had to study Dany's story in school; you would be surprised at the things we have to study in French classes here in Portugal lol. Of all the texts I read from May 68, Daniel's was the one that stroke me the most...I was shocked when I read that he was called a nazi (when he was actually a Jew; his family had sought refuge in France after running away from Germany)...
"My parents were too young for May 68 (they were about 10) but they do remember playing with stones in the streets... against the cops of course! :D" - lol my mom was also 10 in May 68...one day I must discuss the impact the student revolution had on African students...
"French love their revolutions. We (or should I say "they"? I changed in Canada!)don't believe in slow change but in radical revolution. Anytime a strike last for a while, people call for a riot... which almost never happens." - LOL that is true; whenever I think of revolutions I think of France. But things are changing a bit...I actually heard a French lady saying the other day that she is tired of strikes, demonstrations that lead nowhere...
"I think we just don't have the ideology and the hope anymore... sad in a way." - I hear you, girl!
Thanks for your input, Zhu; it brought valuable information *bowing*!
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It's funny how our youth looks the same despite of different countries and cultures...
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Hi Cidão,
ReplyDeleteDon't tell me that youth in Brazil doesn't give a straight answer either lol!
An award for me? I will be there in a jiffy :D!
Thanks *bowing*!
Cheers
Max
ReplyDelete"...(we just need to choose the right choreography)!..."
Brilliant.
The choreographer has already chosen us for life's dance set to our music.
Dance Cheers!
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Brilliant." - thank you so much *bowing*! You do realise that you are spoiling me...one of these days I will be unbearable LOL *nodding*...
"The choreographer has already chosen us for life's dance set to our music." - this is gorgeous! I presume that the choreographer is God...do you think that He tells us how to dance?
Pas de deux Cheers!
I don't know much about the youth in your country but here in the Philippines, the youth leave me disappointed. Back in my day, we were involved, educated,aggressive, but always well-mannered. The youth of today in our country seem to be apathetic and shallow. They do not have the idealism I expect from the young. Moreover, they seem to be lacking in morals. It's deplorable. But I can't really blame them. I blame it on mis-education, lack of parental guidance and the media. One of the reasons why I started blogging is because I would like to influence parents, specially Filipino parents, to appropriate time to guide their children to become better human beings. We cannot progress as a nation unless we do our part in molding our children to become useful members of society. Change ultimately must come from within. Since the smallest unit of the country is the family, then the change must originate from there. By the way, HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!!!
ReplyDeleteHey WF,
ReplyDelete"Back in my day, we were involved, educated,aggressive, but always well-mannered." - I hear you!
"The youth of today in our country seem to be apathetic and shallow." - sometimes I come to think the same...*nodding*...it's heart-breaking...
"They do not have the idealism I expect from the young. Moreover, they seem to be lacking in morals. It's deplorable. But I can't really blame them. I blame it on mis-education, lack of parental guidance and the media." - I definitely hear you on "lack of parental guidance". The media wouldn't harm if parents would explain their kids that what they see is not to be repeated and why...
"One of the reasons why I started blogging is because I would like to influence parents, specially Filipino parents, to appropriate time to guide their children to become better human beings." - that is a pretty good reason, my friend :D!
"We cannot progress as a nation unless we do our part in molding our children to become useful members of society." - Amen!!!
"Change ultimately must come from within. Since the smallest unit of the country is the family, then the change must originate from there." - very well put!!!! I like this!!!
"By the way, HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!!!" - Thank you so much *bowing*! Happy Valentine's day to you too :D!
Thank you so much for your input, it was very much appreciated; as you can see I didn't add much in order not to ruin such beautiful views! Thanks!
Cheers
You're RIGHT about not blaming parents. However, I find that some parents give bad influences to their kids he he he he...The kids are following their examples.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, one more thing...I still think that parents ought to at least try to give them good examples or moral lessons, though...no matter what the result is he he he...
ReplyDeleteHey Amelia,
ReplyDeleteWhat I think it happens is that parents neglect their kids...they put them first! And this is a requirement if they are to raise better kids!
But in other cases, the children have great parents, who set good examples and they just choose to ignore it and surrender themselves to mischievious acts!
Thanks, girl! You know that your opinion matters :D!
Cheers
Amelia,
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! I agree with you on this one :D!
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The scariest part of all of this is having people who think this way having influence on our children!!! Ack! It is hard to maintain innocence in this time and culture. The things that my daughter brings home from school, 1st grade are devastating to her gentle soul. I wish that I was in a position to home school, maybe next year if things continue as they are....however this is a problem also, as home schooled children are naive to the ways of the world and that can open them up to being hurt, taken advantage of and so many other problems
ReplyDeletehi Max,ust stopping to read the nice articles..Happy Valentine.
ReplyDeleteMax, what can I say about our youth today, I work in a large mall as a building super, I see a lot of troubled kids.
ReplyDeleteGenerally I think they have way more then we did, have access to a lot more tech, and on average have very little respect for anything or anybody.
Maybe part of the problem is that the parents are both working trying to make a living, don't really take the time to communicate or even understand what their kids are going through and with the new virtual worlds, my space, facebook ect. kids don't get together anymore face to face to disscuss real issues, to busy online trying to get more fake friends.
Even video games are not releasing split screen games, where 2 people can play in the same room, the only multiplayer is online, again loosing contact with another real person.
Just my feelings on what maybe happening.
Sorry game companies have not totally stopped releasing in home multiplayer, but are cutting back, good for Nintendo still keeping it real.
ReplyDeleteMax, winning post again. I agree with Bob, so I will not write what he wrote, I promise I am not cheating on my comments, lol. However, I think youth these days is confused, and I think this is because of all the gadgets and things they can have - all this crazy marketing schemes attacking the youth. Also, what troubles me, is this example, we have one neighbour on one side with 2 teenage girls and on the other side neighbour with 2 teenage boys and one girl. And now I have to mention the snow again, but the point is that none of them ever picked up the shovel to clean the snow. I often clean the driveway of the lady who has two girls, because she is single mother. I just don't understand. I know Max you are talking about bigger things for youth, but I think youth needs to be educated soon as they are in dipers...Max, I have to absorb this post a bit more, I will be back with more ideas. Thanks for sharing, and as always thanks for visiting my side of the world always, it is appreciated. I have been busy lately and trying to catch up with blogging so I been moving from blog to blog, and I am still behind, lol. I see you around, and I will be back. Anna :)
ReplyDeleteidioma italiano:
ReplyDelete"sei una ragazza a posto"
hahaha,
carina!
grazie,
ciao a presto
Hello Genevieve,
ReplyDelete"The scariest part of all of this is having people who think this way having influence on our children!!! Ack!" - I know what you mean...just thinking that they spread their depressing and low ideas through blogging, myspace, chat rooms and etc *nodding*...
"It is hard to maintain innocence in this time and culture. The things that my daughter brings home from school, 1st grade are devastating to her gentle soul." - true, so true...kids nowadays are forced to face pain, terror and dreadful events much earlier than we did; it is rather tragic that their innocence is being taken away so soon *nodding*...
"I wish that I was in a position to home school, maybe next year if things continue as they are....however this is a problem also, as home schooled children are naive to the ways of the world and that can open them up to being hurt, taken advantage of and so many other problems" - I agree with you...home school may seem like a solution on the short run; but on the long run it can be devastating because over-protected kids have a hard time coping with life outside home...the world is a jungle and only the strong thrive.
Thank you so much for your opinion on this issue, Genevieve; it was highly appreciated :D!
Cheers
Hey kbguy,
ReplyDeleteWelcome to MAX :D! Feel free to stop by whenever you wish, our doors are always opened :)!
Thank you: Happy Valentine's to you too :D!
Cheers
Hey Bob,
ReplyDelete"I see a lot of troubled kids." - you do? That is most unfortunate :(....
"Generally I think they have way more then we did, have access to a lot more tech, and on average have very little respect for anything or anybody." - I hear you...it's like they don't have to fight to have anything anymore, right? They ask, they get. I remember asking something to my mom and she telling me "yes, of course you can have it" and then I would get it 6 months later if not a year lol...but it was cool, cause today I cope with disappointments and frustration rather well (better than I would expect)...
"Maybe part of the problem is that the parents are both working trying to make a living, don't really take the time to communicate or even understand what their kids are going through and with the new virtual worlds, my space, facebook ect." - I hear you...
"kids don't get together anymore face to face to disscuss real issues, to busy online trying to get more fake friends." - I utterly agree with you...kids don't meet anymore, now they hide behind cell-phones and computers (which is bad cause they don't develop human relations skills: competition between groups, the small jealousies inherent to humans, flirt in school - eye contact, giggles, body talk - sharing gums, stuff in general etc, that can only be attained face to face...no way it can be acquired through the computer, it is not the same...).
"Even video games are not releasing split screen games, where 2 people can play in the same room, the only multiplayer is online, again loosing contact with another real person." - I see...
"Just my feelings on what maybe happening." - and what magnificent thoughts you have on the issue; thank you, Bob, your input was extremely important...*bowing*!
Cheers
Bob,
ReplyDeleteLOL it's ok! So, you are a fan of Nintendo, huh?
Hey Anna,
ReplyDeleteI missed you on the arena :D!
LOL I know you are not cheating LOL LOL....this was a good one!
"However, I think youth these days is confused, and I think this is because of all the gadgets and things they can have - all this crazy marketing schemes attacking the youth." - and to think that when I was 18, we were called the X generation...but when I look at these kids nowadays I wonder who is the X generation...their mouths are more filthy (they curse a lot) than my classmate's many years ago *nodding*...
"Also, what troubles me, is this example, we have one neighbour on one side with 2 teenage girls and on the other side neighbour with 2 teenage boys and one girl. And now I have to mention the snow again, but the point is that none of them ever picked up the shovel to clean the snow. I often clean the driveway of the lady who has two girls, because she is single mother. I just don't understand. I know Max you are talking about bigger things for youth, but I think youth needs to be educated soon as they are in dipers..." - Anna, your example is pretty huge! It all starts at home...when I was a teenager I had to wash my dad's car, help him change break pads, clean the garage, help my mom at home and learn how to sew with my granny...all this apart from studying and reading. I didn't like most of chores but I had to do them anyway; and it shaped me for the rest of my life.
Today's kids do nothing! Not even their own beds; but here I hold their parents responsible.
"Max, I have to absorb this post a bit more, I will be back with more ideas. Thanks for sharing, and as always thanks for visiting my side of the world always, it is appreciated. I have been busy lately and trying to catch up with blogging so I been moving from blog to blog, and I am still behind, lol. I see you around, and I will be back." - you do as you may, no problem, darling :D. No need to thank me, it is my pleasure *bowing*! Life can swallow us up sometimes, I know that :).
See you later :)!
I would like to thank you for your thoughts on this subject: you brought up an excellent example; thanks :D!
Cheers
Ciao Hanna,
ReplyDeleteAh una lezione!!! Me ne piace benÃssimo!!! Grazie, bella :D! Adesso vedremo se sono in grado di discernere questo idioma:
«"sei una ragazza a posto"» - you're ok; you mean business (free translation)...did I get it right?
Ti ringrazio per aiutarmi col mio Italiano :D!
A presto
bene:
ReplyDeleteposto = position, place, set..
Questa è traduzione precisa.
Invece in gergo o familiare significa esattamente come hai distinto tu:
una ragazza OK, all right!
ps. quante lingue sai?
Hanna,
ReplyDeleteGrazie tante per la lezione, carina...sono contenta di aver datto la risposta corretta *inchinandomi*!
So Portoghese, Inglese, Francese, Spagnolo, Italiano (eccetto i proverbi lol) e adesso sto imparando tedesco (che è molto difficile)...
E tu?
Max,
ReplyDelete"I presume that the choreographer is God...do you think that He tells us how to dance?"
Oh God, I hope not. I have seen some awful dancing. LOL.
I think the onus falls on people. We each hear the rhythm differently. Like when Patti Labelle is on stage and she just kicks her shoes off and soars.
Paso Doble Cheers.
Max, happy valentine's day... when you are free please come over my place... I have a humble celebration of love and you got something from me... :-)
ReplyDeleteAlexys,
ReplyDelete"Oh God, I hope not. I have seen some awful dancing. LOL." - LOL LOL LOL *choking while laughing* LOL...I hear you on that one LOL LOL well, not only everybody was blessed with light feet (thank God, I was immensely blessed when it comes to dancing lol)! Do you dance?
"I think the onus falls on people. We each hear the rhythm differently. Like when Patti Labelle is on stage and she just kicks her shoes off and soars." - lol nice analogy lol! You are right: we each hear rhythms differently :)
Tango Cheers.
Hey Trinity,
ReplyDeleteHappy Valentine's day, darling :D!
I will drop by your place in a while :D!
Celebration of love: love that! :) I wonder what that is...? :)
Cheers
Max,
ReplyDeleteI only dance in the shower. ;D
Samba Cheers
Alexys,
ReplyDeleteLOL LOL LOL I see...*nodding*!
I love dancing samba! :D
Salsa Cheers
Hi Max, you said: 'It all starts at home...when I was a teenager I had to wash my dad's car, help him change break pads, clean the garage, help my mom at home and learn how to sew with my granny...all this apart from studying and reading. I didn't like most of chores but I had to do them anyway; and it shaped me for the rest of my life.' - you are amazing, what a similar life to mine, I remember too at 5 we had to wash dishes, and do cleaning every saturday, and once we were about 7 years old, we were awarded more rooms, including working in the fields. Like you, sometimes hated it, but you know I am glad that it worked out for us like that, and I appreciate all that even more now. Max I really admire you, and you are one well shaped person (mentally I mean, lol), probably physically too since you exercise. Well I have a plan for my kids one day, hopefully it all work out, you know the society outside the home later when they become teenagers, sometimes can affect them very much. I am so glad that you have started this post....Anna :)
ReplyDeleteNice reading this post...I agree with your thoughts....todays youth is just a bubbling lot with raw energy, mostly doing thinks in the heat of the moment without putting much pressure to their brains & life has become such...the youth is really moving on without thinking much about the past or the future...they have so many things which are available just on demand that they really care, even if some mistakes happen....well written!
ReplyDeleteHey I have an award for you at my site, feel free to pick it up anytime
ReplyDeleteHello Anna,
ReplyDelete"you are amazing, what a similar life to mine, I remember too at 5 we had to wash dishes, and do cleaning every saturday, and once we were about 7 years old, we were awarded more rooms, including working in the fields." - thank you, dear; but I am as amazing as you are :D! Yeah, parents knew how to keep their kids busy, because that is the key to keep kids away from troubles: keep them busy all the time!
"Like you, sometimes hated it, but you know I am glad that it worked out for us like that, and I appreciate all that even more now." - I hear you! I thank God everyday for the education and up-bringing I received...it was a blessing!
"Max I really admire you, and you are one well shaped person (mentally I mean, lol), probably physically too since you exercise." - thank you so much; you are extremely kind *bowing*! LOL well, I got the shapes indeed...when I was younger I used to dislike my body, until I went to Africa and saw how relaxed women are about their own bodies and how men love them. From that time onwards I just accepted my curves and only strove to keep myself in shape and relax lol...youngsters are so foolish sometimes *nodding* lol...that is why I just love being 30!
"Well I have a plan for my kids one day, hopefully it all work out, you know the society outside the home later when they become teenagers, sometimes can affect them very much. I am so glad that you have started this post....Anna :)" - I am sure your plan will work out just fine (you will be blessed) :D! I know, society is like a jungle and teens just have a hard time adjusting to it...but as parents we need to help them thrive in the jungle, right?
I am glad that you liked it :)!
Cheers
Hey Flyingstars,
ReplyDeleteWelcome to MAX :D!
Thanks, I am glad you liked it *bowing*!
"....todays youth is just a bubbling lot with raw energy, mostly doing thinks in the heat of the moment without putting much pressure to their brains & life has become such..." - I hear you. Sometimes I get so disappointed at them...you wouldn't even imagine *nodding*...
"the youth is really moving on without thinking much about the past or the future...they have so many things which are available just on demand that they really care, even if some mistakes happen....well written!" - society needs to check itself if we are to have sound youngsters in the future *nodding*. Thanks once again, and thanks for your most appreciated view-point on this issue :D!
Cheers
Hey Bob,
ReplyDeleteAn award for me? What a pleasant surprise :D! I will pick it up either later or tomorrow, ok? Thank you so much *bowing*!
Cheers
Hey Max! I have some awards for you http://mlizcochico.blogspot.com/2008/02/awards-galore.html
ReplyDeleteHappy weekend.
Hi! What’s wrong with today’s youth here in Australia? For the very large majority they’re great.
ReplyDeleteIt’s the very small minority that have very little or no respect for the ones that would wish them well, that gets my goat.
Perhaps it’s the fault of the adult world, as the youth here are taught far too early on how to complain about and challenge those that are there to assist them.
Yes, they should be aware of their rights.
But for the ones that have got it totally wrong they should first learn that to get on in this world they shouldn’t expect anything and everything to be handed to them on a silver plater, without first making some effort in the first place.
The other challenge here is the friction amongst young white males and Australian born male ethnic group members. Some see themselves greater than the other.
Whether it’s testosterone or an unnatural dislike for each other I’m not quite sure. It’s a bit like gang warfare at times. As seen in the 2005 Cronulla riots. Pretty scary to say the least.
But it seems to have calmed down now, thank heavens. Although the media likes to beat it up from time to time.
In conclusion I’d like to give the youth of today my vote, as I would surely find it hard growing up in today’s climate.
Regards,
Peter
Hey Liza,
ReplyDeleteAn award for me? Oh my...will I need a big bag to carry it lol?
I am on my way to your place, girl!
Thank you so much :D!
Cheers
Hi Peter,
ReplyDelete"It’s the very small minority that have very little or no respect for the ones that would wish them well, that gets my goat." - I hear you; it gets my goat too *nodding*...
"Perhaps it’s the fault of the adult world, as the youth here are taught far too early on how to complain about and challenge those that are there to assist them." - well, then this is a worldwide issues; cause the same things occurs here in Portugal (unfortunately).
"Yes, they should be aware of their rights." - yes, I agree...
"But for the ones that have got it totally wrong they should first learn that to get on in this world they shouldn’t expect anything and everything to be handed to them on a silver plater, without first making some effort in the first place." - absolutely! And they must learn that life is about exchange, reciprocity...that everything has got a price...nothing is free!
"The other challenge here is the friction amongst young white males and Australian born male ethnic group members. Some see themselves greater than the other." - that is a shame, indeed *nodding*. Nobody is greater than anybody; we are all humans, we all feel pain, love, we shed tears, we play...we are humans, different yet equal in genesis!
"Whether it’s testosterone or an unnatural dislike for each other I’m not quite sure. It’s a bit like gang warfare at times. As seen in the 2005 Cronulla riots. Pretty scary to say the least." - *nodding*...testosterone is no excuse for uncivilized behaviours...I say that it is plain evil, Peter *nodding*!
"But it seems to have calmed down now, thank heavens. Although the media likes to beat it up from time to time." - Thank heavens! The media likes to sparkle these issues and I haven't figured out with what purpose *nodding*! They do the same here in Portugal with African communities, it is evil expressing itself...I tell you.
"In conclusion I’d like to give the youth of today my vote, as I would surely find it hard growing up in today’s climate" - that is so kind of you :). Aren't you precious: you have total confidence in women and you are utterly optimist concerning youth (I admire you for that)...I must bow before such an enlightened creature *bowing*!
Thank you so much for your most appreciated point of view, my soul brother ;D!
Cheers
Hello Max;
ReplyDeleteI actually replied to this comment in the past and I am sure you didn’t delete it so I am guessing it just “didn’t take”. I will try again…..
You said:
"Food, shelter, education, healthcare, careers, and family life (the “bread”) are things easily attained for most persons in those societies. At the same time entertainment (“circuses”) permeates our societies. Media, music, TV, movies, internet, computer games, arts, magazines, books, sports, etc. saturate our daily lives. Some would say we are entertaining ourselves to death." - but how do you explain the fact that there are young people who live in the middle of all that and yet come out right...and how to you explain the fact that kids until 12 seem (nowadays) to be stronger, more intelligent (knowing what they want from life at early age) than their teens (and twenty-something) counter-parts?
I respond:
I am not sure that what you are describing is typical, but if it is I believe that one of the factors would be that the culture and education system have not yet had time to do as much damage. The dream machine is still functional.
You said:
"With all of this people feel they “don’t have enough time”, the amount of time has not changed but our expectation of what we will do with that time has developed the concept of “leisure time” and “retirement” which have become predominant desires." - I agree with you. However I would like to add that we have the power to manage our times; I often hear my friends say "I don't have time for this or for that" whereas I have time to do all the things I have to do (people are not willing to compromise, not even with their own time; nor to prioritise).
I respond:
I agree with everything you said Max, the key is prioritizing. People can make time for the things they “feel” are important but they don’t seem able to do this with things that they do not seem to find as important. I have to admit that once in a while I get into a time jam but it is partially because of work issues outside of my control, I end up helping those above me with their bad time management! Also part of my work is helping in crisis situations and crisis’s that are delivered without prior warning can be problematic. LOL
You said:
"While there certainly are multitudinous “great causes” in general most people are “happy with what they have” and have made themselves “to busy”." - I see what you mean...but what about kids? If they don't engage in "great causes" what is there for them to do? Play nintendo all day, chat in the internet all day, sms their friends all the time? Think of clothing, of loosing weight? Surrender to futility?
I respond:
I believe that I have engaged this whole question in a manner that includes the young with the mainstream society, over here at least there is an amazing integration of lifestyle through out ages (perhaps my perception but I believe that it is accurate at least in my area). It is all down to bread, circuses and white noise. People are entertaining themselves sot death, leisure is the occupation not world change, although I do personally know some dynamic young world changers, shockingly energized, brilliant and dedicated. Pop-culture has become predominant (even more pop than before).
You said:
"Yet the pendulum swinging back the other way is inevitable. “Bread and circuses” cannot satisfy long term. Humans are designed with a need for more; indeed the “bread and circuses” are primarily “white noise” in our lives." - I like this sentence; and I totally agree with you; we were designed for deeper things, deeds and thoughts. We must find the equilibrium between the "bread and circuses" (cause I agree that we must provide our homes and we must have fun, but we must not focus our entire existence on this...succumbing to bread and circus is the same as sticking your head in the sand).
I respond:
I agree with everything you said and you totally agreed with me, what are coming to? LOL
There are many things in modern culture that are good but there are also many that are problematic. Most are just living life without engaging in the more prominent issues of the day. I believe one of the issues around this is people expect government to do everything, which it cannot do. Is there ever enough money and technology for every healthcare issue?
The current generation is largely onboard for responding to climate change. This issue is prominent; we will see if this engagement is fruitful, it certainly is a hot topic here.
You said:
"I can actually relate to this issue in another way, as an adult. I certainly didn’t care about changing the world when I was young. Yet today I am deeply concerned about issues. When I express these concerns some people are warmly receptive. Others find them not relevant to their own lives and then don’t care. Then there is the group that is hostile, they would prefer not to hear about these issues. They want talk that is fluff, ideas that are not complex and not from what they see as “pushy Christians”. They don’t want these kinds of ideas expressed in the market place of ideas." - I know where you are coming from. But youngsters in previous generations to yours wanted to change the world, and they did it; so what happened afterwards to leave youth so inertial to the point of not wanting to care about fighting for new causes? Did they lean on the achievements of the past?
And why are you deeply concerned about these issues today? What changed?
I respond:
Ok Max…I’m going to level with you, I believe that everything I said is accurate but I believe there is more behind the scenes. No not a conspiracy! LOL It comes back to post-modernism, and absolute truth. With PM all truth is subjective so why try to change anything? Why affect change upon others after all….all points of view are equal, none are wrong. With PM you can’t even say one culture has superior traits, you can’t say one idea is better than another, PM and the inability to call upon absolute truth are deal killers. Now of course although PM is the dominant point of view currently in pop culture many still do bold things to help others, not everybody buys into it, and most that say they do in reality do not, it is used as a smoke screen for selfishness and hedonism.
Never in recorded history has absolute truth been so widely publicly denounced…. Most positive world changing ideals come from altruism, and without absolute truth there is no altruism…..
There is but one factor that changed me in this way that I now care about what is going on around me. The love and grace of God, He is transforming my life. He tells me to love my neighbors, my friends, to love my enemies! But he also helps me to do this, which is awesome when you consider that He is doing this thru me because I am actually not much….
Now obviously I believe that everybody is better off with this kind of relationship with God, but I recognize not everybody is willing to engage in this relationship, yet if active support for absolute truth would become predominant in pop-culture this would change the world. Till it slips again….
You said:
"Many of our freedoms are under attack by those that think in that way, they don’t really want freedom of speech, and they certainly don’t want freedom of faith if it is a faith that says it is the only way…." - lol *nodding*...I understand that people may not want to see their options taken away; and when you state that there is only one way...you are, in a sense, taking their freedom of choice away too...
I respond:
This is a very important point you made….
First all major belief systems say they are the only way, they all outright reject major tenets of the others beliefs.
That freedom of choice is still open to all, people can receive or refuse, and indeed they do this. Yet if one believes there is only one way to God and they didn’t tell others this what kind of person would they be?
You said:
"Oh yes I almost forgot, that Caravaggio could sure paint…. LOL" - LOL LOL he sure could :D! And this is the darker version of the painting, cause the brighter one is simply amazing (but then my blog would be X rated LOL LOL)...the details...Madonna mia!
I respond:
LOL
Actually I noticed which version you used! LOL
A very engaging topic presented as per your usual excellence….
Hello LS,
ReplyDeleteI thought that I was going to your place now, but then I saw this message....
"I actually replied to this comment in the past and I am sure you didn’t delete it so I am guessing it just “didn’t take”. I will try again….." - no, I didn't delete...I never delete comments; unless when I double entry my own lol...but my guests' never....
"I am not sure that what you are describing is typical, but if it is I believe that one of the factors would be that the culture and education system have not yet had time to do as much damage. The dream machine is still functional." - interesting viewpoint....it might be one good explanation for it, yes...
"I agree with everything you said Max, the key is prioritizing. People can make time for the things they “feel” are important but they don’t seem able to do this with things that they do not seem to find as important. I have to admit that once in a while I get into a time jam but it is partially because of work issues outside of my control, I end up helping those above me with their bad time management! Also part of my work is helping in crisis situations and crisis’s that are delivered without prior warning can be problematic. LOL" - LOL I hear you on the last part of this section LOL. Indeed, people choose what is important and what is not...and usually their notion of "important" is usually the futile, disposable, unnecessary, irrelevant part of their life...
"I believe that I have engaged this whole question in a manner that includes the young with the mainstream society, over here at least there is an amazing integration of lifestyle through out ages (perhaps my perception but I believe that it is accurate at least in my area). It is all down to bread, circuses and white noise. People are entertaining themselves sot death, leisure is the occupation not world change, although I do personally know some dynamic young world changers, shockingly energized, brilliant and dedicated. Pop-culture has become predominant (even more pop than before)." - Ah yes, I often forget that you are not European, and for that I apologise, my friend *bowing*! I hear on you on all the rest....
"I agree with everything you said and you totally agreed with me, what are coming to? LOL" - LOL LOL that is a good question...
"There are many things in modern culture that are good but there are also many that are problematic. Most are just living life without engaging in the more prominent issues of the day. I believe one of the issues around this is people expect government to do everything, which it cannot do. Is there ever enough money and technology for every healthcare issue?" - touché: "people expect government to do everything"!!!! This is so true, and it is so evident here *nodding*! No, there isn't enough money and technology for every healthcare issue, at least not if the gov. is to pay for everything...here in Portugal our NHS is a mess, we pay too little for it and the quality is poor; we should have health insurance (partially subsidised by the government for those who earn little, and fully paid for those who earn more than an established amount) organised by the state; and if gov is creative enough they can even make money with that public investment, which could later be used to modernise our hospitals (meanwhile they would continue to make money)...
"The current generation is largely onboard for responding to climate change. This issue is prominent; we will see if this engagement is fruitful, it certainly is a hot topic here." - it is not a hot topic here *nodding*....
"Ok Max…I’m going to level with you, I believe that everything I said is accurate but I believe there is more behind the scenes. No not a conspiracy! LOL" - LOL LOL for a second I thought that you were going nuts LOL....I am glad to see that you are still sane LOL *nodding*...
"It comes back to post-modernism, and absolute truth. With PM all truth is subjective so why try to change anything? Why affect change upon others after all….all points of view are equal, none are wrong. With PM you can’t even say one culture has superior traits, you can’t say one idea is better than another, PM and the inability to call upon absolute truth are deal killers." - I see...do you think that one culture has superior traits over another? We both live in PM and in our conversations we have often implied that X idea was better than Y, we have no taboos LOL...
"Now of course although PM is the dominant point of view currently in pop culture many still do bold things to help others, not everybody buys into it, and most that say they do in reality do not, it is used as a smoke screen for selfishness and hedonism." - I hear you...
"Never in recorded history has absolute truth been so widely publicly denounced…. Most positive world changing ideals come from altruism, and without absolute truth there is no altruism….." - Altruism doesn't exist...and if we listen carefully to God's words in the Law He denies altruism...
"There is but one factor that changed me in this way that I now care about what is going on around me. The love and grace of God, He is transforming my life. He tells me to love my neighbors, my friends, to love my enemies! But he also helps me to do this, which is awesome when you consider that He is doing this thru me because I am actually not much…." - you are God's creation therefore you are grand, cause everything that God does is grand! :)
"Now obviously I believe that everybody is better off with this kind of relationship with God, but I recognize not everybody is willing to engage in this relationship, yet if active support for absolute truth would become predominant in pop-culture this would change the world. Till it slips again…." - LOL LOL *nodding*....till it slips again, indeed....lol
"This is a very important point you made…." - :)
"That freedom of choice is still open to all, people can receive or refuse, and indeed they do this. Yet if one believes there is only one way to God and they didn’t tell others this what kind of person would they be?" - they would be the kind of people who would be patient. I mean, folks must choose what they want to follow first and then go to the people who believe that their way is the only way to God and learn from them all there is to learn. I do not condone with what Christians and Muslims do (and Hare Krishna here in Lisbon): following people around to convert them...it is almost like brainwashing *nodding*....
"LOL Actually I noticed which version you used! LOL" - LOL good, I knew you would understand :)
"A very engaging topic presented as per your usual excellence…." - thank you, thank you....*bowing*!
Always a pleasure conversing with you, my friend :)
Cheerio
Max you said: 'when I was younger I used to dislike my body, until I went to Africa and saw how relaxed women are about their own bodies and how men love them. From that time onwards I just accepted my curves and only strove to keep myself in shape and relax lol...youngsters are so foolish sometimes *nodding* lol...that is why I just love being 30!' - I am taking your advice, and good for you Max, you rock, lol! Anna :)
ReplyDeleteAnna,
ReplyDeleteLOL Thank you for thinking that "I rock" LOL :D! Ah, my ego is so fed nowadays LOL ;D!
Yeah, it is a good advice to follow...Africans have a lot to teach us...:)!
Thanks for your cool words, darling...I just love them ;D!
Cheers