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How much appreciation should be demonstrated towards someone who works under another one’s decree? Plenty, I’d say.
The Help Vs its Best
I find it rather distasteful when someone mistreats and disrespects the help.
People should never forget what servants do for them: clean their bathroom(s) [and God only knows, that when they are unfortunate enough to work for a total pig, what it all encompasses]; clean their mess [when they drink and spill it all over; when they regurgitate the contents of their stomach; when they step into the house/flat with their muddy shoes etc]; clean their house; wash their clothes and underwear [I say, everybody should wash their own underwear – for the moment, I’ll excuse myself from explaining why]; put up with their rude children; wash their car; take care of their garden; keep them company; secure their family etc…Servants organise the life of the people they work for; they witness their miseries; they make sure that their home is the place that they long to return to after a long day at work. The help is the living proof of patience, kindness and sense of loyalty. To serve is not at the reach of just anybody.
Is it ethical to despise such human beings? Absolutely not.
The Employee Vs the Employer
It is utterly hideous to humiliate, to be unfair towards, to treat roughly, to scorn an employee, or someone working under one’s direct/indirect orders.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but an employee is someone who contributes highly to a company’s success, since it helps generating its wealth. Have you ever noticed what happens when an employee is mistreated by his boss? He will either do his job poorly (even if it will cost his job – but how much will it cost the company?); or he will not apply his full potential into the business; he will resent his chief/boss/best and sabotage his position in the company, or even seek for a personal vendetta etc. While frustrated, traumatised, inferiority-complex-sufferer bosses take it out on their employees, or people working under their command, the company is losing ground in the market; mistakes are being overlooked; failure knocks (and somebody will eventually open the door to it)...
Is it ethical to be despotic towards employees? No, it is not.
The courage to admit that an employee is an asset is to conduct oneself accordingly to the principles of corporate Honour and Social Responsibility.
The People Vs the Government
When a Premier/President is elected to serve the people, it is despicable to serve his own agenda.
To seat in a High Office means to be conscious of the fact that his job is to serve the best interests of those who voted for him; signifying this that the people is to be heard, to be respected, to be served; for after all they are the ones contributing for his salary, travel expenses; for the management of the country etc...Serving the nation does not denote using public money to create institutions to employ the Premier/President’s friends and relatives; it does not mean using tax money to fund personal expenses; it does certainly not refer to deplete the natural resources of his country to benefit his cronies. When serving as the Premier/President one is to be humble, and to avoid making mistakes that will tear apart the country’s social tissue.
Is it ethical to betray the confidence of voters? Oh no, it is most certainly not.
The Help Vs its Best
I find it rather distasteful when someone mistreats and disrespects the help.
People should never forget what servants do for them: clean their bathroom(s) [and God only knows, that when they are unfortunate enough to work for a total pig, what it all encompasses]; clean their mess [when they drink and spill it all over; when they regurgitate the contents of their stomach; when they step into the house/flat with their muddy shoes etc]; clean their house; wash their clothes and underwear [I say, everybody should wash their own underwear – for the moment, I’ll excuse myself from explaining why]; put up with their rude children; wash their car; take care of their garden; keep them company; secure their family etc…Servants organise the life of the people they work for; they witness their miseries; they make sure that their home is the place that they long to return to after a long day at work. The help is the living proof of patience, kindness and sense of loyalty. To serve is not at the reach of just anybody.
Is it ethical to despise such human beings? Absolutely not.
The Employee Vs the Employer
It is utterly hideous to humiliate, to be unfair towards, to treat roughly, to scorn an employee, or someone working under one’s direct/indirect orders.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but an employee is someone who contributes highly to a company’s success, since it helps generating its wealth. Have you ever noticed what happens when an employee is mistreated by his boss? He will either do his job poorly (even if it will cost his job – but how much will it cost the company?); or he will not apply his full potential into the business; he will resent his chief/boss/best and sabotage his position in the company, or even seek for a personal vendetta etc. While frustrated, traumatised, inferiority-complex-sufferer bosses take it out on their employees, or people working under their command, the company is losing ground in the market; mistakes are being overlooked; failure knocks (and somebody will eventually open the door to it)...
Is it ethical to be despotic towards employees? No, it is not.
The courage to admit that an employee is an asset is to conduct oneself accordingly to the principles of corporate Honour and Social Responsibility.
The People Vs the Government
When a Premier/President is elected to serve the people, it is despicable to serve his own agenda.
To seat in a High Office means to be conscious of the fact that his job is to serve the best interests of those who voted for him; signifying this that the people is to be heard, to be respected, to be served; for after all they are the ones contributing for his salary, travel expenses; for the management of the country etc...Serving the nation does not denote using public money to create institutions to employ the Premier/President’s friends and relatives; it does not mean using tax money to fund personal expenses; it does certainly not refer to deplete the natural resources of his country to benefit his cronies. When serving as the Premier/President one is to be humble, and to avoid making mistakes that will tear apart the country’s social tissue.
Is it ethical to betray the confidence of voters? Oh no, it is most certainly not.
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Well done max, excellent post , gives us something to think about again.
ReplyDelete"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the Prophets."
Matthew 7:12
That kind of sums it up, in practice I try to treat all my staff with respect, you get better moral and therefore you get more work accomplished, they are the workers that accomplish the tasks.
As far as the help,lol, never had any, totally can't relate to that except that they should be treated like part of the family as far as I'm concerned, especially if they were to wash my underware,lol
I won't even go to the political part, as all politicians lie and cheat and politics suck, actually I think a politician must have dropped me on my head as a child,lol, In my 53 years I have seen so much backtracking on promises, so much deceit, and it comes from all political parties, man gets power man gets corrupt, sucks but it is true.
“How much appreciation should be demonstrated towards someone who works under another one’s decree? Plenty, I’d say.” - I agree!!
ReplyDelete“I find it rather distasteful when someone mistreats and disrespects the help.
People should never forget what servants do for them” – I have a real problem with the word “servant.” It’s probably just me. I’d prefer “assist.” According top the dictionary, the word “servant” is being used correctly “In a person’s employ to perform house work……”
“Is it ethical to despise such human beings? Absolutely not.” - This goes back to the days of slavery, where servants were mere chattel, not even regarded as human.
“Correct me if I’m wrong, but an employee is someone who contributes highly to a company’s success, since it helps generating its wealth.” - It goes beyond that; an employee helps their immediate boss look good to his/her immediate boss.
“Have you ever noticed what happens when an employee is mistreated by his boss?” - Everything you said here was spot-on. My wife is a teach in a middle school and she just got a new principal who seems to take pleasure in treating the teachers as less than human. She was brought in to bring up the scores (everything is measured by student standardized test scores.) Do you think the teachers are motivated to make the principal look good?
“When a Premier/President is elected to serve the people, it is despicable to serve his own agenda.
To seat in a High Office means to be conscious of the fact that his job is to serve the best interests of those who voted for him; signifying this that the people is to be heard, to be respected, to be served; for after all they are the ones contributing for his salary, travel expenses; for the management of the country etc...
Serving the nation does not denote using public money to create institutions to employ the Premier/President’s friends and relatives; it does not mean using tax money to fund personal expenses; it does certainly not refer to deplete the natural resources of his country to benefit his cronies.
When serving as the Premier/President one is to be humble, and to avoid making mistakes that will tear apart the country’s social tissue.
Is it ethical to betray the confidence of voters? Oh no, it is most certainly not.” – Oh Max, you are so naive (LOL). Idealistically, that is the goal. But in too many cases, “absolute power corrupts absolutely.” And when a new leader get into “power” he sees the “possibilities” and, even if he wasn’t flawed going in, there is a pretty good chance that he will be when he sees what is “possible.” Too bad there are no “absolute fool-proof” ways of judging someone’s character before he/she even runs for office. It always seems to come down to which candidate is the lesser of two evils. This time in the US election, I do believe that I can identify the lesser of the two evils (but I have been wrong before……………….once, about 20 years ago, I think.)
I am tired of “old-white men” who have no idea how to connect with middle class (whatever that is) running this country. Sorry to get off subject, but I just had to express that.
This was a great post on ethics and character. Another winner by Max.
BTW, this is going up at SB. Every Tuesday, you will head the list, I have no doubt.
Hi Bob :D!
ReplyDelete"Well done max, excellent post , gives us something to think about again."
Thank you, Lord of the Astropics *bowing*! I am glad you liked it :D!
«"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12»
Amen to that.
"That kind of sums it up, in practice I try to treat all my staff with respect, you get better moral and therefore you get more work accomplished, they are the workers that accomplish the tasks."
It does sum it up. People should put themselves in other people's shoes.
Yes, exactly! When the staff is respected and feel appreciated, they work better, they give more of themselves!
"As far as the help,lol, never had any, totally can't relate to that except that they should be treated like part of the family as far as I'm concerned, especially if they were to wash my underware,lol"
LOL LOL LOL I hear you! Underwashing is a serious matter....
"I won't even go to the political part, as all politicians lie and cheat and politics suck, actually I think a politician must have dropped me on my head as a child,lol, In my 53 years I have seen so much backtracking on promises, so much deceit, and it comes from all political parties, man gets power man gets corrupt, sucks but it is true."
Whoah, talking about being disappointed at politicians! But you know what? I do understand you, politicians have invested a lot time showing us that they cannot be trusted. Hopefully, we will have a new generation of politicians and things will change...who knows?
Bob, thank you so very much for your incredible input! It is always great to hear your thoughts :D!
Cheers
Hi Mel :D!
ReplyDelete"I agree!!"
*bowing*....
"I have a real problem with the word “servant.” It’s probably just me. I’d prefer “assist.” According top the dictionary, the word “servant” is being used correctly “In a person’s employ to perform house work……”"
Well, you are not alone. Here in Portugal we have a word for "servant" which is "criado" (it has been used for centuries), but now it is not politically correct to say "criado" we have to say "empregado doméstico" (domestic employee), "assistente doméstico" (domestic assistant) or "Gestor doméstico" (Domestic Manager)...
"This goes back to the days of slavery, where servants were mere chattel, not even regarded as human."
A smear in human history *nodding*! Sometimes I wonder what I would've done if I ever lived in those shameful times *nodding*....
"It goes beyond that; an employee helps their immediate boss look good to his/her immediate boss."
LOL so true, Mel! More of a reason to treat an employee with respect and dignity.
"Everything you said here was spot-on. My wife is a teach in a middle school and she just got a new principal who seems to take pleasure in treating the teachers as less than human. She was brought in to bring up the scores (everything is measured by student standardized test scores.) Do you think the teachers are motivated to make the principal look good?"
No. They can't be motivated to make a principal who disrespects them, and their, work look good. They might even plot to bring her down...
However the students wellfare must be kept in mind at all times.
"Oh Max, you are so naive (LOL). Idealistically, that is the goal."
LOL I am, am I not? LOL LOL...
"But in too many cases, “absolute power corrupts absolutely.” And when a new leader get into “power” he sees the “possibilities” and, even if he wasn’t flawed going in, there is a pretty good chance that he will be when he sees what is “possible.”"
For most cases this is true. And if we think of African leaders...ooohhh...needless to discuss it *nodding*! But there a few exceptions: for example, here in Portugal, when our present President (Prof.Cavaco Silva) was a Premier back in the 80's/90's he didn't engage in corruption, he didn't use public money to benefit himself nor his buddies, he didn't make use of his influence to help his relatives nor his friends...nothing (he is known as the cleanest politician in the post-Revolution of 1974 era); do you know what they called him? A Fascist, because Salazar (our fascist leader during the 30's/40's/50's/60's) was the cleanest politician in the Dictactorship era (he never took advantage of his position to benefit himself nor his family, and he enriched the nation).
Now, our socialist governments...those have parties after parties if you know what I mean...
"Too bad there are no “absolute fool-proof” ways of judging someone’s character before he/she even runs for office. It always seems to come down to which candidate is the lesser of two evils. This time in the US election, I do believe that I can identify the lesser of the two evils (but I have been wrong before……………….once, about 20 years ago, I think.)"
Indeed, it is impossible to test a candidate's character before he/she runs for office.
I am not that negative about politics; I find it to be a beautiful science, and although most politicians have been showing us their worse side (same old, same old), I still believe that in the future we will be pleasantly surprised by a whole new breed of political men and women.
You have been wrong before? Well, who hasn't?
"I am tired of “old-white men” who have no idea how to connect with middle class (whatever that is) running this country. Sorry to get off subject, but I just had to express that."
It's ok, Mel...I totally understand you! And I understand why you would be tired of that sort of candidates. The middle class has been misunderstood, misrepresented and misled for too long. It is one of the most important factors of any economy.
"This was a great post on ethics and character. Another winner by Max."
Thank you, Mel *bowing*! :D
"BTW, this is going up at SB. Every Tuesday, you will head the list, I have no doubt."
Thanks, buddy :D! You beat me again...
Mel, thank you ever so much for this absolutely amazing comment and conversation (I love politics, although I still have a lot to learn about it) :D!
Cheers
Max,
ReplyDeleteYour naiveté is showing again: "I still believe that in the future we will be pleasantly surprised by a whole new breed of political men and women."
I grew up on the 60s and 70s, the "peace generation", where you never trusted anyone over 30. We were going to change the world, "make love not war."
Well look what happened when we took over. Is it better? After all we were a "whole new breed of political men and women."
I don't mean to be negative or cynical, but I do believe that history has proven me right. Now I don't deny that there is always that diamond in the rough (like yourself), and we are always hoping and praying that the next one will him/her. I have that hope for Obama. We will just have to wait and see.
As far as Portugal goes, I am sorry to say that I do not know much about your political system of its history. I just know that the 2 days I spent in Portugal, about 30 years ago still stands out in my memory. Both the people and the scenery are MAGNIFICENT!
Mel,
ReplyDelete"Your naiveté is showing again: "I still believe that in the future we will be pleasantly surprised by a whole new breed of political men and women." "
LOL perhaps, I am...but still, I hang on to my belief!
"I grew up on the 60s and 70s, the "peace generation", where you never trusted anyone over 30. We were going to change the world, "make love not war.""
LOL oh my God...I wouldn't be trusted back then LOL! Oh...people who made plans on changing the world while smoking grass...it was easy to see that the change would occur, yes; but not exactly the way they'd expect...
That slogan "make love not war" is the an absurd...men make love and war; they don't know how to separate the two...war in is human blood.
"Well look what happened when we took over. Is it better? After all we were a "whole new breed of political men and women.""
It is better than before, Mel. You guys did change things: thanks to your generation, women are far more better than they are today; human rights gave a huge step (which gave the chance to a certain candidate to run for the white house today - this was your doing); the world is better (in comparison to the past).
However, it is not exactly what you may have planned....but it is better.
"I don't mean to be negative or cynical, but I do believe that history has proven me right. Now I don't deny that there is always that diamond in the rough (like yourself), and we are always hoping and praying that the next one will him/her. I have that hope for Obama. We will just have to wait and see."
I don't think you are being cynical, like you say: history keeps proving us right. But history has also taught us that are eras of common sense, of righteousness! *Bowing*...
I understand your hope for Senator Obama...Europe also has that hope in him.
"As far as Portugal goes, I am sorry to say that I do not know much about your political system of its history. I just know that the 2 days I spent in Portugal, about 30 years ago still stands out in my memory. Both the people and the scenery are MAGNIFICENT!"
It's ok, Mel...you are forgiven lol ;)! 30 years ago...well, I was already here (I arrived, from Mozambique, in my mom's arms in August 1977)...you liked it? Then you would love it NOW!!! It is even more gorgeous!!
Max,
ReplyDeleteThere is reality and there is hope. We all must hold onto the hope and try, in reality, to bring the hope into reality. We will all be disappointed far more often than rewarded. But when we are rewarded it so outshines the disappointments that it is all worthwhile.
Remember my moto "Never, Never, Never Give UP."
I would love to come back to Portugal one day.....we'll see??
Because of you, I so look forward to Tuesday.
THANK YOU for being there!!!!
Mel,
ReplyDelete"There is reality and there is hope. We all must hold onto the hope and try, in reality, to bring the hope into reality. We will all be disappointed far more often than rewarded. But when we are rewarded it so outshines the disappointments that it is all worthwhile."
Man...you have said it all! Rewards completely obliterate the disappointments and sadness...indeed, indeed *contemplative look*!
"Remember my moto "Never, Never, Never Give UP.""
How could I forget? My mom injected that same motto in my head for years lol...
Plus, I do read "Are you prepared for success" :)!
"I would love to come back to Portugal one day.....we'll see??"
:D definitely!!
"Because of you, I so look forward to Tuesday."
Ooh, that is so kind, Mel *smiley face*! Thank you *bowing*! I always look forward to our conversations!!
"THANK YOU for being there!!!!"
You are most welcome, my dear friend! One of these days, you will achieve the unachievable: make my cheeks redden LOL!
Hi Max,
ReplyDeleteI am so happy that it's Maxday! :D
I think the help should always be treated with the utmost kindness and respect. Just because they are doing a menial task doesn't mean one can treat them unjustly. These are the people who are privy to such intimate secrets that they could potentially ruin their employer's reputation.
"It is utterly hideous to humiliate, to be unfair towards, to treat roughly, to scorn an employee, or someone working under one’s direct/indirect orders."
It is hideous to treat ANYONE like that whether they work for you or not. Honor up as well as down. Treat everyone with dignity and your life will be rich.
"Have you ever noticed what happens when an employee is mistreated by his boss? He will either do his job poorly (even if it will cost his job – but how much will it cost the company?); or he will not apply his full potential into the business; he will resent his chief/boss/best and sabotage his position in the company, or even seek for a personal vendetta etc."
The film Swimming With Sharks is a fine example of the above. (and I can't say that I blame the employee for what he did.) As an employer, you are responsible for the well being of your employee during the hours in which they are in your employ.
"Is it ethical to be despotic towards employees?"
Never. Leona Helmsley fired so many people because of her temper and her perfectionism that it probably cost her more to keep hiring than firing.
Leona was said to have shouted obscenities at busboys, waiters or chefs before firing them simply for having dirty fingernails. There was one particular incident where Leona purportedly chased an executive down the corridor after he told her he was quitting. Frequently, Leona allegedly fired maids during room inspections if there was as even a piece of lint on the floor or an uneven lampshade. She had such a bad reputation that she and her husband were attacked by an intruder while they were sleeping. She was stabbed in the chest and her husband was also attacked - they both survived.
"When a Premier/President is elected to serve the people, it is despicable to serve his own agenda."
Unfortunately that is the nature of the beast and it is quite despicable. How many times have we witnessed a politician changing his agenda once in office? Too numerous to count. They often win the office on a false platform and false promises like a wolf in sheep's clothing.
We never know how much of our taxes are going towards paramours, gambling, hedonism or deviant behavior. (I don't think we want to know.)
As you can surmise, I have a lot of confidence in politicians. LOL.
"Serving the nation does not denote using public money to create institutions to employ the Premier/President’s friends and relatives; it does not mean using tax money to fund personal expenses; it does certainly not refer to deplete the natural resources of his country to benefit his cronies."
Preach it my sista!
"When serving as the Premier/President one is to be humble, and to avoid making mistakes that will tear apart the country’s social tissue."
Brilliant analogy.
"Is it ethical to betray the confidence of voters?"
No it isn't. But the question is are politicians ethical in general. History tells me that they are not. My gut tells me that human nature rears it's ugly head.
Excellent dissertation my dear. Bravo.
Ethical Cheers!
Hi Lady A :D!
ReplyDelete"I am so happy that it's Maxday! :D"
Merry Maxday, darling :D!
"I think the help should always be treated with the utmost kindness and respect. Just because they are doing a menial task doesn't mean one can treat them unjustly. These are the people who are privy to such intimate secrets that they could potentially ruin their employer's reputation."
Absolutely!! You have addressed exactly what I was hoping someone would address (pause for music: "It had to be you! It had to be you...I've wandered around, and finally found somebody who...." end of pause)! The help is a precious asset that not only puts one's life in order, but also can ruin his/her best's life.
Look at all the examples in the Royal family: the buttlers that sold their secrets to newspapers, who wrote books, the latest news were of a buttler who worked for Queen Elizabeth and is a pedophile (this made people wonder a lot)...
"It is hideous to treat ANYONE like that whether they work for you or not. Honor up as well as down. Treat everyone with dignity and your life will be rich."
True. But some people take pleasure in humiliating those who work under their command: it is like that person never found itself in a position of power, and once it gets there he begins to have this ghastly demeanour of mistreating others *nodding*...
It is like they are covered by the cloak of vanity, arrogance, contempt, I don't know....
"The film Swimming With Sharks is a fine example of the above. (and I can't say that I blame the employee for what he did.) As an employer, you are responsible for the well being of your employee during the hours in which they are in your employ."
I don't think I'be watched that one yet. I fully agree with you in gender, number and degree, girl!
"Never. Leona Helmsley fired so many people because of her temper and her perfectionism that it probably cost her more to keep hiring than firing."
Of course!
"Leona was said to have shouted obscenities at busboys, waiters or chefs before firing them simply for having dirty fingernails."
She is crazy!! Isn't it simpler to just send them to a manicure? It would cost less...
"There was one particular incident where Leona purportedly chased an executive down the corridor after he told her he was quitting. Frequently, Leona allegedly fired maids during room inspections if there was as even a piece of lint on the floor or an uneven lampshade. She had such a bad reputation that she and her husband were attacked by an intruder while they were sleeping. She was stabbed in the chest and her husband was also attacked - they both survived."
No wonder she was stabbed! Did they ever found out who was the "saint" that did it? Most probably a cousin of someone who worked for her *nodding*....
"Unfortunately that is the nature of the beast and it is quite despicable. How many times have we witnessed a politician changing his agenda once in office? Too numerous to count. They often win the office on a false platform and false promises like a wolf in sheep's clothing."
So sad, really *nodding*! And that is not the essence of serving in a public office...
And you know what it is even more disappointing? That the ones who are good politicians may end up killed.
"We never know how much of our taxes are going towards paramours, gambling, hedonism or deviant behavior. (I don't think we want to know.)
As you can surmise, I have a lot of confidence in politicians. LOL."
LOL I can see that LOL! However you are right: we just don't know! But if we knew, there would maybe be a civil war!
"Preach it my sista!"
Can I get an "Amen"?
"Brilliant analogy."
Thank you *bowing*! :)
"No it isn't. But the question is are politicians ethical in general. History tells me that they are not. My gut tells me that human nature rears it's ugly head."
In general, no...they are not. But there are a few exceptions...
"Excellent dissertation my dear. Bravo."
Thank you so much, Lady A *bowing*!
And thanks for this amazing comment/conversation, your input is most valued :D!
Politics Cheers
Hello Max….
ReplyDeleteAnother eloquent Maxism….
For me as a Jesus follower I have a sublime respect for the servant leadership model of leadership a leadership for all people no matter their “station”….either “servant” “employee” etc or leader/employer etc….
This manner of leading is exemplified in Jesus…
3 Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. 4 Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.
5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
6 Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
9 Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor
and gave him the name above all other names,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
- - Philippians 2:3-11 (NLT)
This allows all of us to be servants and leaders in community when all embrace this unfathomable sublime humility…..
Perhaps a more day to day example will be helpful…..
5-8Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters but always with an eye to obeying the real master, Christ. Don't just do what you have to do to get by, but work heartily, as Christ's servants doing what God wants you to do. And work with a smile on your face, always keeping in mind that no matter who happens to be giving the orders, you're really serving God. Good work will get you good pay from the Master, regardless of whether you are slave or free.
9Masters, it's the same with you. No abuse, please, and no threats. You and your servants are both under the same Master in heaven. He makes no distinction between you and them.
- - Ephesians 6:5-9 (The Message)
So I do my best to embrace servanthood being a slave to the Lord of humility receiving His leadership in my life being transformed into the kind of leader He grows thru me…
I pray my sins step aside to receive this servant leadership from the King of Glory…
I may be turning into a bitter old woman (who knows!) but what drives me crazy lately is people's lack of ethics.
ReplyDeleteEthics can be very basic. Like saying "thank you" for a service, or just "playing fair" at work.
But it's a one way street of a lot of people... sad. Quelle connerie! (I'm just helping you to practice your vocabulary! :D )
Hi Max,
ReplyDelete"Merry Maxday, darling :D!"
Same to you my dear.
"Absolutely!! You have addressed exactly what I was hoping someone would address (pause for music: "It had to be you! It had to be you...I've wandered around, and finally found somebody who...." end of pause)!"
LOL. I love the musical interlude. Of course, it HAD to be me. ;D
"Look at all the examples in the Royal family: the buttlers that sold their secrets to newspapers, who wrote books, the latest news were of a buttler who worked for Queen Elizabeth and is a pedophile (this made people wonder a lot)..."
Yes, those positions offer lots of temptation to be disloyal. I am actually surprised that more don't fly the coup or spill the beans. What about that man who wound up in the Queen's bedroom - and no on knows how he got there?????
"True. But some people take pleasure in humiliating those who work under their command."
Yes, they are called agents! I knew someone who worked for a talent agent and everyday he would complain how his boss (a female agent) would physically, emotionally, mentally and sexually harass him. It finally got to be too much and he quit.
I think women may possibly be worse than men.
"I don't think I'be watched [Swimming With Sharks] yet. I fully agree with you in gender, number and degree, girl!"
You have to see the film to witness the severity of it.
"She is crazy!! Isn't it simpler to just send them to a manicure? It would cost less."
Maybe she was manic depressive? (still crazy though)
"No wonder she was stabbed! Did they ever found out who was the "saint" that did it?"
Saint? ROFL. The stabber was never found and she still reverted back to being the Queen of Mean.
"And you know what it is even more disappointing? That the ones who are good politicians may end up killed."
Yes, I know exactly what you mean.
"...we just don't know! But if we knew, there would maybe be a civil war!"
Definitely an uprising.
"Can I get an "Amen"?"
Amen my sista!
"In general, no...they are not. But there are a few exceptions."
Agreed.
"And thanks for this amazing comment/conversation, your input is most valued :D!"
As is yours.
I have been following the stream between you and Mel and I nominate you both for President and Vice President of the US. You can decide who gets what position. Flip a coin like they usually do. You both would make a welcome change for the rhetoric we have been hearing from all candidates. Please consider it.
Presidential Cheers!
Oh dear Max,
ReplyDeletePlease forgive me for not joining in on this one.
I am simply exhausted. And have been all week.
I am going to take it real easy over the next couple of days and be ready for next Tuesday.
Blessings:D
Hello LS...
ReplyDelete"Another eloquent Maxism…."
Why, thank you so much *bowing*!
"For me as a Jesus follower I have a sublime respect for the servant leadership model of leadership a leadership for all people no matter their “station”….either “servant” “employee” etc or leader/employer etc…"
That is so nice of you, darling! I suppose you are referring to....
"This manner of leading is exemplified in Jesus…"
Yes, of course you were referring to Jesus...
"This allows all of us to be servants and leaders in community when all embrace this unfathomable sublime humility…"
Many Christian leaders didn't (and some still don't) understand Paul's words nor Jesus' teachings, and their actions (through history) are the proof of that lack of comprehension...
"Perhaps a more day to day example will be helpful….."
Shoot...
"9Masters, it's the same with you. No abuse, please, and no threats. You and your servants are both under the same Master in heaven. He makes no distinction between you and them. - - Ephesians 6:5-9 (The Message)"
Indeed, indeed.
"So I do my best to embrace servanthood being a slave to the Lord of humility receiving His leadership in my life being transformed into the kind of leader He grows thru me…"
I see...
"I pray my sins step aside to receive this servant leadership from the King of Glory…"
Amen.
LS, although I was expecting a more laic point of view; I do thank you for this fantastic comment :D!
Cheers
Hey Zhu,
ReplyDelete"I may be turning into a bitter old woman (who knows!) but what drives me crazy lately is people's lack of ethics."
You, bitter? Never! I agree with you: lack of ethics also drives me mad!
"Ethics can be very basic. Like saying "thank you" for a service, or just "playing fair" at work."
Absolutely! It is a very simple concept, and people just seem to choose to be unethical: it's preposterous! How can one prefer to do wrong over doing right? I am obviously missing something *nodding*...
"But it's a one way street of a lot of people... sad. Quelle connerie! (I'm just helping you to practice your vocabulary! :D )"
Sad indeed, girl! LOL LOL C'est vrai: c'est une grosse connerie (thank you, I appreciate the help :D)!
Zhu, merci infiniment pour ce commentaire magnifique :D!
(English: Thank you so very much for this magnificent comment)
Cheers
Hi Lady A,
ReplyDelete"Same to you my dear."
Thanks :D!
"LOL. I love the musical interlude. Of course, it HAD to be me. ;D"
LOL I thought you would :D! LOL LOL but of course ;D!
"What about that man who wound up in the Queen's bedroom - and no on knows how he got there?????"
I heard about that!! Isn't it odd? Perhaps one of the maids, or butlers snuck him in there, who knows?
"Yes, they are called agents! I knew someone who worked for a talent agent and everyday he would complain how his boss (a female agent) would physically, emotionally, mentally and sexually harass him. It finally got to be too much and he quit.
I think women may possibly be worse than men."
"physically, emotionally, mentally and sexually harass him"??? That is a lot of harrassment!! Shocking! It is at times like this that I begin to think that some women may very well be more vicious than men *nodding*...
She abused her employee...didn't he sue her?
"You have to see the film to witness the severity of it."
I will, I will....
"Maybe she was manic depressive? (still crazy though)"
Maybe...or even Bipolar. Still, she should be institutionalised!
"Saint? ROFL. The stabber was never found and she still reverted back to being the Queen of Mean."
LOL yes, "saint" (there is a story behind the usage of this word: here in Portugal, it is sad that Salazar, the fascist leader, died in 1968 because someone sawed his chair and casing his fall. From that day onwards people asked "Who was the saint that did it?" implying that some did it on purpose to end fascism lol - which only ended in 1974 *nodding*)!
"The Queen of Mean" ROFL...that was a good one! LOL....
"Definitely an uprising."
Definitely!
"Amen my sista!"
Can I get a witness?
"As is yours."
Thank you :D!
"I have been following the stream between you and Mel and I nominate you both for President and Vice President of the US. You can decide who gets what position. Flip a coin like they usually do. You both would make a welcome change for the rhetoric we have been hearing from all candidates. Please consider it."
LOL LOL Mel is a fantastic friend and it would be an honour to have him either as my running mate or President :D!
Mel, do you hear this?
Quite an honour, Lady A, quite an honour...thank you so much *bowing*! We will take your suggestion into consideration (I'd have to apply for the US citizenship, make some arrangements...Hmmm...we'll see lol)!
White House Cheers
Hello Shinade :D!
ReplyDelete"Please forgive me for not joining in on this one."
You are quite forgiven, dear!
"I am simply exhausted. And have been all week."
I am so sorry to hear that! I hope it is nothing serious, darling! :(
"I am going to take it real easy over the next couple of days and be ready for next Tuesday."
:) that is so sweet of you, thank you *bowing*! But you have a proper rest, cause I want to know that you are all right and writing all your beautiful texts, ok? :)
"Blessings:D"
Thank you ever so much, darling! May God bless you!
Rest, and I shall be thinking of you!
Thanks for having taken the time to visit me!! :D
Cheers
It's great to know that someone is looking out for the little guy. We tend to forget that our successes are not just because of our efforts but with the hard work and support of those around us. I love this post and I hope those who read will learn a thing or two about appreciation and humility.
ReplyDeleteMax & Alexys,
ReplyDeleteI am deeply honored and on behalf of the US I humbly accept the nomination. Now we just have to figure out how to get by the fact that you (Max) were not born in the US. That does put a crimp in the plans (LOL).
again, well done! :)
ReplyDeletei'm lucky to get help here and we treat her not just a helper but as a family. although she gets paid to do the chores, my family loves her and treats her like a relative.
i also despise employers who mistreat their employees. i've seen a friend humiliate his manager in front of all of us for a very simple mistake. right that moment i felt like disappearing. i felt ashamed that he is my friend.
i saw joel's comment, lol, he is my other half ;)
take care max, happy thursday.
Max,
ReplyDelete"I heard about that!! Isn't it odd? Perhaps one of the maids, or butlers snuck him in there, who knows?"
Apparently he climbed through a window. Was the Royal Guard asleep when it happened or did he slip them a few lagers?
"That is a lot of harrassment!! Shocking! It is at times like this that I begin to think that some women may very well be more vicious than men."
You can say that again!
"She abused her employee...didn't he sue her?"
He just wanted to get out of there ASAP! He changed employers and that one (a man) was worse. One aspect of his job was to find gay men who didn't mind being hit on by their boss. Strange isn't it? He quit that one too. Now he is a teacher.
"Maybe...or even Bipolar. Still, she should be institutionalised!"
She is no longer with us. She currently resides in Hotel Hell where she is reviewing her life to try and get the next one right. She may even be forced to be a servant to others? God knows?
"LOL yes, "saint" (there is a story behind the usage of this word: here in Portugal, it is sad that Salazar, the fascist leader, died in 1968 because someone sawed his chair and casing his fall. From that day onwards people asked "Who was the saint that did it?" implying that some did it on purpose to end fascism lol - which only ended in 1974 *nodding*)!"
Interesting story behind that. Thanks for the filler.
"The Queen of Mean" ROFL...that was a good one! LOL."
That's what the media dubbed her.
"Mel is a fantastic friend and it would be an honour to have him either as my running mate or President :D!"
So it has been written, so it shall be done!
"Mel, do you hear this?"
His ears are burning.
"We will take your suggestion into consideration (I'd have to apply for the US citizenship, make some arrangements...Hmmm...we'll see lol)!"
Don't worry. I have you covered.
Red White & Blue House Cheers!
Mel & Max,
ReplyDeleteNot to worry. You will both have to divorce your current spouses and marry each other. Your spouses will understand. A small price to pay for serving America. That way Max will be legal.
You will also make history as the first married couple who are President and Vice President. Your names and images will be emblazoned across the pages of millions of history books and your fame will keep you in the spotlight.
Your platform will be love, gratitude, forgiveness, compassion and personal responsibility. At first the country won't understand why you are not corrupting the government even further and burning bridges with world leaders, but you will win the people over with love.
Your foreign policy will unite all people in all nations. You will retool the military and make it an army of love. Any citizen caught not sharing love will promptly be reminded through gentle reinforcements.
Andrew Lloyd Webber will write a musical about your life and love. It will go on to win several Tony Awards, Grammy Awards and Incredible Achievement Awards.
You see, it CAN be done. I urge you to kiss your current spouses goodbye now and plan your future together. America needs you. The people need you. The world needs you.
Max & Mel Cheers
Mel & Max Cheers
Alexys & Max,
ReplyDeleteAlexys, you are a laugh riot, you had me laughing so hard I couldn't catch my breath.
Now to get serious....yes by marrying me, Max, you would be legal, however, still unable to run for President or Vice President. You see, according to the constitution you must be born in the US. So, we would first have to get a constitutional amendment passed that would allow for foreign born people to run for Pres or Vice Pres.
Oh yes, and the most importantly, our spouses just might object. Well, I'm not so sure about mine, but Max, I don't think your current husband would understand, being a newlywed and all. Maybe in a few years, when you tier of him we can think about the 2012 election........but wait, according to the Mayan calendar and Nostradamus, I believe, isn't the world suppose to go through a major transition in 2012, or merely end?
Other than that, Alexys, it is a great idea!!!!
"Kaye & Couti".........Sorry, I mean "Couti & Kaye"
Hi Mel & Max,
ReplyDeleteMel, oh dear, I am sorry to cause such paroxysm. I do hope you caught your breath. Take a deep breath now. Hold it to the count of three. Let it go. There. Feel better now?
Yes, I forgot that technicality. Wasn't our lovely governor (Arnold Schwarzenegger) trying to get that changed to suit his bid for the presidency?)
Hmmmm. Let's see. What if we get Max a new birth certificate? Won't that suffice?
Maybe both of your spouses can get jobs in the presidential cabinet. Whatever it is, we will work out the details.
Mel I must correct you on your Nostradamus prediction. The world has already ended, we are just dreaming - or asleep, I forget which one.
Nevertheless, I won't give up the dream of a Mel & Max ticket.
Chanting Mel & Max Cheers!
lol, must be really sleepy when i made the comment earlier. it's supposed to be "my better half" not my other half. hehe.
ReplyDeleteAlexys,
ReplyDeleteNever give up on your dreams, no matter how impossible they are (LOL).
However, in deference to Max (who we both love and respect) I reluctantly believe we should change the chant to "Max & Mel." We'll call it alpha order. Somehow I don't believe Max would play second fiddle to anyone, not even me.
And, your right, the birth thing is just a mere detail, and details only get in the way.
Alexys & Max,
ReplyDeleteAs per the world ending, I think I took the blue pill or was it the red......? Is this reality or am I in the Matrix (Max, LS will give you the details if you ask him, as he is still trying to convert you.)
Hello Joel :D!
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the MAX (at least, welcome to the comment section, because we've already met through Entrecard)!!
"It's great to know that someone is looking out for the little guy. We tend to forget that our successes are not just because of our efforts but with the hard work and support of those around us."
:D thank you! I utterly agree with you!
"I love this post and I hope those who read will learn a thing or two about appreciation and humility."
I am so glad you loved it, Joel *bowing*! Yes, let's hope so too!
Joel, thank you so much for this incredible comment; and please feel free to join us whenever you feel like it - you are extremely welcome here :D!
Cheers
Mel & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"I am deeply honored and on behalf of the US I humbly accept the nomination."
*Stevie Wonder's 'Signed Sealed Delivered' song is on*! LOL...
"Now we just have to figure out how to get by the fact that you (Max) were not born in the US. That does put a crimp in the plans (LOL)."
LOL LOL you are right, and I have thought about it...we must talk to those guys in Washington so that the Constitution is changed: I could be a valuable asset to the US! (LOL).
Hey Liza :D!
ReplyDelete"again, well done! :)"
Why, thank you, darling *bowing*!
"i'm lucky to get help here and we treat her not just a helper but as a family. although she gets paid to do the chores, my family loves her and treats her like a relative."
And that is the way it should be! I am sure she happily puts a bit of herself in every chore she does for you guys :D!
"i also despise employers who mistreat their employees. i've seen a friend humiliate his manager in front of all of us for a very simple mistake. right that moment i felt like disappearing. i felt ashamed that he is my friend."
That is terrible!! I don't like it when employers do that: I too feel ashamed as a human being *nodding*.
"i saw joel's comment, lol, he is my other half ;)"
Oh, Joel is your better half? How sweet!! :D
You know, I had crossed his way through Entrecard but never spoke with him...he seems to be a very nice chap :)! I am very pleased to have made his acquaintance!!
"take care max, happy thursday."
Thanks, darling; you too! Happy Thursday to you too :D!
Cheers
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Apparently he climbed through a window. Was the Royal Guard asleep when it happened or did he slip them a few lagers?"
LOL LOL a few lagers no doubt LOL LOL!
"You can say that again!"
It is at times like this that I begin to think that some women may very well be more vicious than men.
"He just wanted to get out of there ASAP! He changed employers and that one (a man) was worse. One aspect of his job was to find gay men who didn't mind being hit on by their boss. Strange isn't it? He quit that one too. Now he is a teacher."
Oh my, what an unlucky chap! He is safe as a teacher now, I hope!
"She is no longer with us. She currently resides in Hotel Hell where she is reviewing her life to try and get the next one right. She may even be forced to be a servant to others? God knows?"
"Hotel Hell" LOL LOL! I didn't know she had died *nodding*! I think she should come back as a servant, definitely!
"Interesting story behind that. Thanks for the filler."
You are welcome!
"So it has been written, so it shall be done!"
LOL LOL...
"His ears are burning."
ROFL...now that is an interesting imagery LOL....
"Don't worry. I have you covered."
Oh, I knew I could count on you! Will go and talk to those guys in D.C. to change the constitution? You could be our lobbyist...
Presidential House Cheers
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Not to worry. You will both have to divorce your current spouses and marry each other. Your spouses will understand. A small price to pay for serving America. That way Max will be legal."
ROFL...that is the plan??? "Your spouses will understand" ROFL....you kill me, girl LOL LOL LOL!
"You will also make history as the first married couple who are President and Vice President. Your names and images will be emblazoned across the pages of millions of history books and your fame will keep you in the spotlight."
ROFL....word? LOL LOL *nodding* LOL...
"Your platform will be love, gratitude, forgiveness, compassion and personal responsibility. At first the country won't understand why you are not corrupting the government even further and burning bridges with world leaders, but you will win the people over with love."
You forgot one item in our plataform: Success. We will be successful in not only convincing the people that our plataform is viable, but also to restablish their trust on politics, and politicians.
"Your foreign policy will unite all people in all nations. You will retool the military and make it an army of love. Any citizen caught not sharing love will promptly be reminded through gentle reinforcements."
'gentle reinforcements'...ok, this means "waterboarding" is out of the question *striking this option off Reinforcement list*! Amen to unite all people in all nations!
"Andrew Lloyd Webber will write a musical about your life and love. It will go on to win several Tony Awards, Grammy Awards and Incredible Achievement Awards."
ROFL...I can see that Musical already! Oh my, this an ambitious project *eyes sparkling*!
"You see, it CAN be done. I urge you to kiss your current spouses goodbye now and plan your future together. America needs you. The people need you. The world needs you."
ROFL....lol *hand on my stomach* ROFL....LOL *tears rolling down* LOL LOL LOL you kill me LOL LOL LOL!
Lady A, you will end by killing me of so much laughter!
Ambitious project Cheers
Mel & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Alexys, you are a laugh riot, you had me laughing so hard I couldn't catch my breath."
She is! I actually had tears rolling down my cheeks, and I nearly swallowed my chewing gum LOL...
"Now to get serious....yes by marrying me, Max, you would be legal, however, still unable to run for President or Vice President. You see, according to the constitution you must be born in the US. So, we would first have to get a constitutional amendment passed that would allow for foreign born people to run for Pres or Vice Pres."
Mel, Alexys will fly over to D.C. and take care of that!
"Oh yes, and the most importantly, our spouses just might object. Well, I'm not so sure about mine, but Max, I don't think your current husband would understand, being a newlywed and all."
ROFL....it would be odd if my husband were willing to let me go at this point (I know it's about serving the US and the people, but not even Britney Spears would leave her husband after a month to serve the US); so I'd agree that he wouldn't understand, no LOL LOL!
"Maybe in a few years, when you tier of him we can think about the 2012 election........but wait, according to the Mayan calendar and Nostradamus, I believe, isn't the world suppose to go through a major transition in 2012, or merely end?"
ROFL....ROFL....I think it is said that the world will go through a major transition, but that is exactly why we should try in 2012 (who knows, by then we might run for the White House without having the need to get married...after Alexys works on those guys in D.C)! Besides they kept saying that the world would end in 2000, and looks at us now...
"Other than that, Alexys, it is a great idea!!!!"
LOL yes, it is! LOL...
""Kaye & Couti".........Sorry, I mean "Couti & Kaye""
ROFL..."Kaye & Couti" sounds good (do you think you'd have issues with the feminists?) LOL LOL *nodding*!
Hey Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDelete"Mel, oh dear, I am sorry to cause such paroxysm. I do hope you caught your breath. Take a deep breath now. Hold it to the count of three. Let it go. There. Feel better now?"
LOL LOL LOL LOL...*nodding*!
"Yes, I forgot that technicality. Wasn't our lovely governor (Arnold Schwarzenegger) trying to get that changed to suit his bid for the presidency?)"
Rumour has it that he was/is (undergroundly lol).
"Hmmmm. Let's see. What if we get Max a new birth certificate? Won't that suffice?"
LOL LOL...Junior Mafia LOL! If you find it easier, girl...how much will that cost the campaign?
"Maybe both of your spouses can get jobs in the presidential cabinet. Whatever it is, we will work out the details."
We will have to think about it, yes...
"Mel I must correct you on your Nostradamus prediction. The world has already ended, we are just dreaming - or asleep, I forget which one."
ROFL...that is a good one!
"Nevertheless, I won't give up the dream of a Mel & Max ticket."
LOL *nodding*...we need a slogan!
Mel & Max ticket Cheers
Hey Liza,
ReplyDeleteI got it, dear lol ;D!
Have a great day!
Cheers
Mel and Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Somehow I don't believe Max would play second fiddle to anyone, not even me."
Oh but I would! Specially if you are better than me, Mel *bowing*! I don't mind to be your running mate!
"And, your right, the birth thing is just a mere detail, and details only get in the way."
LOL LOL you guys are dangerous!!
Mel & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"As per the world ending, I think I took the blue pill or was it the red......? Is this reality or am I in the Matrix (Max, LS will give you the details if you ask him, as he is still trying to convert you.)"
ROFL....You are in the Matrix (this one I know all too well)!!
LOL LOL true, LS is trying to convert me to scifi...he is so adorable...but I will continue to resist (I won't be assimilated) LOL!
Hi Max,
ReplyDelete:)
As Jesus provides such an awe inspiring resplendent example of leadership and servanthood He is an inescapable example to center upon on such a topic. He epitomizes both great leadership and being a great servant even if people reject His truth claims.
Yet since you would it seems prefer a more secular response one that does not consider Jesus let me try this….
I see no reason at all why survival of the fittest should not rule the day. Might makes right whether it is slavery and rampant conquest and anarchy or any other system. There is no standard of right and wrong if we discount God. There would be no constraint upon what actions a person or group may take to impose their will upon another.
The United States Revolution was based largely upon an “appeal to Heaven” a standard endowed by the Creator that says all humans are equal. This provides a framework within which servants and leaders, employers and workers can work together….it may at times be slow to act in some matters as we humans grip to power but it can still change as it has a Greater structure imposed upon both the individual and the community the stronger and the weaker.
The Governance of the people and the government lays beneath the Other...
Hi LS;
ReplyDelete" :) "
Oh my...he starts with a smile lol....may God bless you, LS :)!
"As Jesus provides such an awe inspiring resplendent example of leadership and servanthood He is an inescapable example to center upon on such a topic. He epitomizes both great leadership and being a great servant even if people reject His truth claims."
I understand, dear; I really do. And I suppose you are right: Jesus is a good example or servanthood.
"Yet since you would it seems prefer a more secular response one that does not consider Jesus let me try this…."
It is not that I prefer, it is more like I was expecting it...but since you smiled I am not sure if you will...!
"I see no reason at all why survival of the fittest should not rule the day. Might makes right whether it is slavery and rampant conquest and anarchy or any other system. There is no standard of right and wrong if we discount God. There would be no constraint upon what actions a person or group may take to impose their will upon another."
Darling, you seem to forget that even when a person claims to discount God from his life, he still has His essence, that is why humans know (intuitively) their right from wrong.
But anyway, just because one is the fittest it doesn't give him the right to mistreat others, nor to humiliate/disrespect them. The true leader is the one who respects everyone under his command, this is pure ethics.
Would you say that ethics and God serving are inseparable?
"The United States Revolution was based largely upon an “appeal to Heaven” a standard endowed by the Creator that says all humans are equal. This provides a framework within which servants and leaders, employers and workers can work together….it may at times be slow to act in some matters as we humans grip to power but it can still change as it has a Greater structure imposed upon both the individual and the community the stronger and the weaker."
Funny you mention how the United States was based, because once you insist on bringing God to this issue you should commence by the way His chosen Nation was based (it is in the Bible, yes?)...
So, what are you saying exactly? That in order for a person to respect his help, or employee or people, he has to be supported by a "Greater Structure", otherwise he won't?
"The Governance of the people and the government lays beneath the Other..."
Not untrue for us...
Alexys, Slogbite and Max….
ReplyDeleteOk I have now managed to make my way thru this rather convoluted conversation you three have been participating in. I am not impressed…..
You must take care when you speak of my Queen that lives in a different country…Do you want me to start picking on Oprah!
We are not in the Matrix however we are in a different dimension fortunately Someone has come to us from the other side and explained it all to us, He has shown us how to get to the other side He has done it Himself and has paid for our passage if we are willing to trust Him…Sorry I better translate in case you are caught up in CNN hysteria I am not speaking of Obama I am speaking of the Messiah Jesus…
Next anybody that gives an exact date for “the end” (like supposedly Nostradamus has) is wrong count that the world will not end that day…and no the world has not yet ended…if you think it has give me all of your money you will not miss it…
The thought of Max and Mel being married *yuck*
Next as bad as Obama and McCain are I would hardly think Mel and Max are accomplished hypnotists my friends….
The cost of painting the Whitehouse Halloween colors like Slogbite.com (or dogbite as Chocolate Girl uses to remember it) $700 billion
The cost of Max forcing everybody to do yoga and being stuck in positions so they can’t go to work $749.9 billion
The cost of Obama in the Whitehouse priceless (well my calculator broke it can’t go that high)…
Equal time…
The cost of McCain in the Whitehouse priceless (as many unfortunates commit suicide from hearing him say “my friends” on loop)…
The thought of Max and Mel being in the Whitehouse *yuck* they wouldn’t have time to blog then!!!!!
By the way Max the word recognition in the comment section for my last comment asked for the word voteobama..oh no even Blogger has been infected!!!
ReplyDeleteLS,
ReplyDeleteI was waiting for you to put in your 2 bits......in this case 1 bit.
"The thought of Max and Mel being married *yuck*"
-Your just jealous because Max chose me over you (tongue out, silly face - Ha, Ha)
Hmmmm - the White House in Halloween colors. Actually I'd rather have the White House in Halloween Colors on the outside rather than having Halloween on the inside, like it is today, full of all sorts of strange and scary characters.
I'll support whatever Max wants to do....if she wants Yoga, she will have Yoga.... We will run on the Yoga platform "All for Yoga and Yoga for All"
Thanks LS, you have solidified our platform!
As far as not blogging goes.
-Blogging is #1 Priority
-Saving the world is #2 Priority
LS,
ReplyDelete"I am not impressed….."
How could you? You are, after all, from the opponent party LOL...you are McLS! LOL...
"Sorry I better translate in case you are caught up in CNN hysteria I am not speaking of Obama I am speaking of the Messiah Jesus…"
LS, if Messiah Jesus were a US citizen he would vote for Senator Obama - he seems to like Senator Obama's diplomacy.
"Next anybody that gives an exact date for “the end” (like supposedly Nostradamus has) is wrong count that the world will not end that day…and no the world has not yet ended…if you think it has give me all of your money you will not miss it…"
It has end in a sense of change, LS...and more change is on the way...
"The thought of Max and Mel being married *yuck*"
LOL LOL LOL LOL....
"Next as bad as Obama and McCain are I would hardly think Mel and Max are accomplished hypnotists my friends…."
I thought you liked Senator McCain.. what are we talking about here? You are Canadian, your vote doesn't count...*nodding*.
"The cost of painting the Whitehouse Halloween colors like Slogbite.com (or dogbite as Chocolate Girl uses to remember it) $700 billion"
ROFL...
"The cost of Max forcing everybody to do yoga and being stuck in positions so they can’t go to work $749.9 billion"
ROFL...*nodding*...at least the whole nation would be fit...
"(as many unfortunates commit suicide from hearing him say “my friends” on loop)…"
Nasty LOL LOL...
"The thought of Max and Mel being in the Whitehouse *yuck* they wouldn’t have time to blog then!!!!!"
Ooohh, you would miss us! How sweet! LOL LOL LOL....
LS,
ReplyDeleteLOL "get outta here!" LOL...
Mel & LS,
ReplyDelete"I was waiting for you to put in your 2 bits......in this case 1 bit."
LOL...
"-Your just jealous because Max chose me over you (tongue out, silly face - Ha, Ha)"
ROFL....ROFL....ROFL.....this was a good one LOL!
"I'll support whatever Max wants to do....if she wants Yoga, she will have Yoga.... We will run on the Yoga platform "All for Yoga and Yoga for All""
ROFL....you kill me, Mel LOL LOL!
"Thanks LS, you have solidified our platform!"
Yeah, LS...Thanks!! :)
"As far as not blogging goes. -Blogging is #1 Priority/ -Saving the world is #2 Priority"
LOL LOL absolutely! Even because blogging is only the beginning of our saving the world; right, Mel?
Max,
ReplyDeleteRight Max.........We have only just begun!!
Mel,
ReplyDeleteHear the people chanting:
Mel & Max! Mel & Max! Mel & Max!!!
LOL...
Hi Max….
ReplyDeleteEthics is a term packed with various dynamics such as how does it compare to morality?
To be frank I am not really overly interested in either morality or ethics as in the end I see them as bankrupt (sounds like an old Graffiti article right?). I am interested in transformation, our soul’s metamorphosis. You see I don’t think that these things come from within but from without, God touching and changing our lives…
This is what I mean…Romans 12…..
1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is true worship. 2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Let me give a practical example I am an employee, when my supervisor is not around why should I still work hard?
Morality, ethics or religion may place certain rules before me and I may choose to follow them or not. If they are simply human made rules there is no reason in an absolute sense why I should follow them they are simply human opinion….
Yet if God is transforming me then I work hard because my soul the deepest “me” will desire to work hard even when my supervisor is not around…the rules do not conform me, popular opinion does not conform me I am changed by His touch upon my life…the touch of love and grace…Now yes I still may sin but if I am a real follower of Jesus this will not be the pattern of my life it will overall be decreasing as I am transformed, I will be growing in my transformation…
LOL Well I am not saying that God has chosen the US like say Israel or the Church (of course anybody can become a Jew and anybody can follow Jesus the Messiah). I am saying that the principles the US was founded upon was an “appeal to Heaven” they carried banners around with this “motto” there were flags and their documents have arguments based on this etc…They appealed to Higher Authority and this is what I often am doing in our conversations….but it seems that we are living in Romans 1….I would prefer Romans 3 and 8….
For a better insight into salvation Israel Romans is helpful but in short you could read the book of Hebrews or Romans 11…however the greater context of Hebrews is essential..
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=11&version=72
Have you ever read any books on the effect of the Reformation upon work (as in employment)? Many studies show that this concept is at the core of the change of attitude towards work in many countries …
Max,
ReplyDeleteYou know, I think I can, way off in the distance. It seems to be getting louder and louder......oh wait, that's my air conditioning rattling. But it's out there somewhere.
But, where is out Number 1 fan and campaign manager??
Alexys........Where are you????
We can't do anything without her.
Oh, and by the way "Canada is not a real country anyway", at least according to SouthPark.
Slogbite/Dogbite/Mel…..
ReplyDeleteMel my friend you seem like a nice guy but honestly I’m not interested in you that way…
The Whitehouse is a scary place because of the characters inside and that is not going to change…You may be offered treats but they will give you tricks…and you may need to turn tricks to keep the money coming in once they get their hands on your wallet…
Hmmm have you ever seen Max and Yoda in the same room at the same time?
LS,
ReplyDelete"Mel my friend you seem like a nice guy but honestly I’m not interested in you that way…"
-Not me, Max (Oh....you know what I mean)
"The Whitehouse is a scary place because of the characters inside and that is not going to change…You may be offered treats but they will give you tricks…and you may need to turn tricks to keep the money coming in once they get their hands on your wallet…"
-I'm not that unaware. Together Max & I can do anything.....can't we Max?
"Hmmm have you ever seen Max and Yoda in the same room at the same time?"
-Yoga not Yoda!!
Or, are you comparing Max to Yoda? Max, you're not going to let LS get away with that, are you.
Max….
ReplyDeleteI am Canadian and not supporting voting for either candidate…You know on another blog I was accused of being an Obama supporter! So if both sides think I am on the other side I am right where I want to be…
The question of who Jesus would vote for is a mute point. He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings, absolute perfect monarchy; we humans are not capable of that here and now but the Other Side is going to be glorious!!….
LOL As for Obama’s diplomacy he is rather a beastial mess “I’m a hawk, I’m a dove, I’m a hawk, I’m a dove, I’m a jellyfish, Joe what am I today?”
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/us/politics/23campaign.html?ref=us
Max you said: “It has end in a sense of change, LS...and more change is on the way...” What kind of cryptic message is that! LOL
You also said: “I thought you liked Senator McCain.. what are we talking about here? You are Canadian, your vote doesn't count...*nodding*.” What kind of propaganda are you trying on here gal?!!! I don’t like either of the candidates but on Sunday I will announce who I will be supporting!!!
Max dear with your yoga platform the whole nation would be in a fit they would be tied in knots and productivity would fall…they would be fit to be tied…
Certainly I would miss you! If you were so busy in the Whitehouse you would have no time for our conversations and how would you be the sci-fi gal you are growing to be? **nodding**nodding again***
Max and Mel/Slogbite/Dogbite….
ReplyDelete(This is starting to look like one of my Survivor articles)
Mel/Slogbite/Dogbite said "-Your just jealous because Max chose me over you (tongue out, silly face - Ha, Ha)">> see tongue is hanging out with a silly doggy face….*nodding*
“Use the force Max use the force”
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frX00n3gngU
Is it the Swiss cheese platform?
As far as priorities where is the chocolate?
Media: “What are your qualifications to be in the Whitehouse?”
Max and Mel: “We have been community bloggers”
Media: “Oh you have descended to us from upon high we will support you as long as you are pro choice and have never shot a moose”…
Equal time:
Media: “What are your qualifications to be in the Whitehouse?”
Max and Mel: “We have been community bloggers”
Media: “Oh you have descended to us from upon high we will support you as long as you can say “hope” and “change” repeatedly and eloquently instead of “my friends” and “drill baby drill” repeatedly…
Mel,
ReplyDeleteI will never give up on my dreams.
The new order of the chant works for me, especially if we say it fast, we won't be able to tell whose name is really first.
Max is a fine fiddle player. She doesn't mind playing second fiddle as long as her fingers don't get tired. She's flexible. Some might call her a contortionist.
Max and Mel….
ReplyDeleteMax said…..(sort of)….
Mel Max! Mel Max! Mel Max! Mel Max! Mel Max! Mel Max!
If you say this fast it sounds like a police car coming to the scene of on an accident….
Max & Mel,
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to run together, please be sure to run a clean campaign. No drugs Mel. That could ruin Max's chances of winning.
If you must have something, Alanis Morisette has a Jagged Little Pill for you.
Is LS your pusher?
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"Stevie Wonder's 'Signed Sealed Delivered' song is on*!"
Excellent choice.
"LOL LOL you are right, and I have thought about it...we must talk to those guys in Washington so that the Constitution is changed: I could be a valuable asset to the US! (LOL)."
Don't worry. I have friends in high places. ;D
Max,
ReplyDelete"He is safe as a teacher now, I hope!"
He is as safe as one can be teaching kindergartners. LOL.
Did you see the film Kindergarten Cop?
"I didn't know she had died *nodding*! I think she should come back as a servant, definitely!"
She died long ago even when she was living. Misery does that to people.
"Oh, I knew I could count on you! Will go and talk to those guys in D.C. to change the constitution? You could be our lobbyist."
So it shall be done!
New American Cheers.
Max,
ReplyDelete"....you kill me, girl LOL LOL LOL!"
No, no, no. It won't work if you are killed.
"You forgot one item in our plataform: Success. We will be successful in not only convincing the people that our plataform is viable, but also to restablish their trust on politics, and politicians."
Yes, you and Mel have your work cut out for you.
"'gentle reinforcements'...ok, this means "waterboarding" is out of the question *striking this option off Reinforcement list*! Amen to unite all people in all nations!"
I assure you that waterboarding or water sports of any kind are not involved.
"Oh my, this an ambitious project *eyes sparkling*!"
That's how I roll! LOL. Madonna will lobby to audition. She will try to sweet talk Webber. She will send him gifts of the finest chocolates and wine, but she will eventually give up when he hires someone who ca actually sing and act.
"ROFL....lol *hand on my stomach* ROFL....LOL *tears rolling down* LOL LOL LOL you kill me LOL LOL LOL!"
ROFL. ROFL. It is contagious.
Ambition Never Killed Anybody Cheers!
Hi LS!
ReplyDelete"Ethics is a term packed with various dynamics such as how does it compare to morality?"
Well, ethics discusses the right conduct and good life by analysing good and wron; morality may be viewed as the synonymous of ethics (since it is a code of conduct in matters of good and wrong)...
"To be frank I am not really overly interested in either morality or ethics as in the end I see them as bankrupt (sounds like an old Graffiti article right?). I am interested in transformation, our soul’s metamorphosis. You see I don’t think that these things come from within but from without, God touching and changing our lives…"
LOL that reminds me of a Graffiti hit! Anyway, ethics is not bankrupt, Men are. Men who choose to not apply ethics into their lives.
Ahhh, "Die Verwandlung" of the soul...what if one is not destined to undergo a metamorphosis of the soul? What if one destined to be ethical only? Is the second more corrupt than the first? Hmmm....
Now, how can you say that you are not interested in ethics nor morality, when they come straight from God? When we are born we know what is right and what is wrong: it is an innate knowledge.
However, you are more than willing to accept the texts written by Paul (a man).
"Let me give a practical example I am an employee, when my supervisor is not around why should I still work hard?"
Because it is your duty to work hard, and do the best you can - this is the ethics of work.
"Morality, ethics or religion may place certain rules before me and I may choose to follow them or not. If they are simply human made rules there is no reason in an absolute sense why I should follow them they are simply human opinion…."
Very interesting...than the same could be said of Paul's words...why should people mind a mere human's opinion; why should they follow the intellectual produce of that apostle? Just because it was added to the Christian Bible?
"Yet if God is transforming me then I work hard because my soul the deepest “me” will desire to work hard even when my supervisor is not around…the rules do not conform me, popular opinion does not conform me I am changed by His touch upon my life…the touch of love and grace…"
When you talk of God transforming someone: do you include Muslim, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists and Axés?
"They appealed to Higher Authority and this is what I often am doing in our conversations….but it seems that we are living in Romans 1….I would prefer Romans 3 and 8…."
Did they appeal to the High Authority or to their notion of High Authority?
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"She is! I actually had tears rolling down my cheeks, and I nearly swallowed my chewing gum LOL..."
No, not your gum. So sorry. I would hate for that to happen. After all, gum is meant to be chewed, not swallowed. LOL.
"Mel, Alexys will fly over to D.C. and take care of that!"
Already taken care of. Max you have been approved.
"ROFL....it would be odd if my husband were willing to let me go at this point (I know it's about serving the US and the people, but not even Britney Spears would leave her husband after a month to serve the US); so I'd agree that he wouldn't understand, no LOL LOL!"
Max, don't think of it as him letting you go, think of it as him letting you roam. He wants the best for you, he will understand. Britney Spears has been contributing to the US economy for the past three years, she is supporting millions of people with her antics. I believe that even she would leave (if she had to.) Is your duty to us or to your husband? Exactly - to us!
"ROFL....ROFL....I think it is said that the world will go through a major transition, but that is exactly why we should try in 2012 (who knows, by then we might run for the White House without having the need to get married...after Alexys works on those guys in D.C)!"
I did inquire. They said that in 2012, they were going to have a same sex couple in the white house (much to the chagrin of LS) and that this is the year of Max and Mel.
Still Hanging On To The Dream Cheers!
Mel,
ReplyDelete"You know, I think I can, way off in the distance. It seems to be getting louder and louder......oh wait, that's my air conditioning rattling. But it's out there somewhere."
LOL LOL LOL...try harder...it is there....LOL
"But, where is out Number 1 fan and campaign manager??"
Oh, she went to D.C to take care of that subject you know....
"We can't do anything without her."
No, we can't!
"Oh, and by the way "Canada is not a real country anyway", at least according to SouthPark."
ROFL....I knew it! LOL
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"LOL LOL...Junior Mafia LOL! If you find it easier, girl...how much will that cost the campaign?"
Pennies on the dollar. Don't worry, AIG will pick up the tab - then the government will bail them out.
"We will have to think about it, yes."
The door's always open.
"LOL *nodding*...we need a slogan!"
How about Nobody Does It Better?
Chanting Cheers.
Dear Max and Slogbite…..
ReplyDeleteAs per the comment: “Oh, and by the way "Canada is not a real country anyway", at least according to SouthPark.”
Ah yes….just let me walk over here to the large Maple Leaf button representing Canada which makes our southern neighbors look like Belgium compared to Texas….Do I push the button and stop all of our oil from entering the cute little country to the south leaving them without their largest supply of oil (bigger than Saudi, Iraq and Mexico combined)?
Or do push the button to stop all of our exports of electricity which is supplied to California and half of the other US states? Of course it may mean they will stop letting us watch SouthPark….But hey we make Battlestar Galactica so who needs SouthPark… Now be nice and act like the Simpsons a far better show and written by Canadians…
:)
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"Oh but I would! Specially if you are better than me, Mel *bowing*! I don't mind to be your running mate!"
Max you are so humble.
"LOL LOL you guys are dangerous!!"
Not as dangerous as NOT having you both run.
Safe Cheers.
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"ROFL....You are in the Matrix (this one I know all too well)!!
LOL LOL true, LS is trying to convert me to scifi...he is so adorable...but I will continue to resist (I won't be assimilated) LOL!"
What you resist persists.
Resisting/Persisting Cheers.
LS, Mel, Max.
ReplyDelete"Ok I have now managed to make my way thru this rather convoluted conversation you three have been participating in. I am not impressed"
LS, how could you not be impressed that we managed to keep it going? Surely that is impressive.
"You must take care when you speak of my Queen that lives in a different country…Do you want me to start picking on Oprah!"
You can have Oprah - and Gayle! Please take them off of our hands.
"We are not in the Matrix however we are in a different dimension fortunately Someone has come to us from the other side and explained it all to us, He has shown us how to get to the other side He has done it Himself and has paid for our passage if we are willing to trust Him…Sorry I better translate in case you are caught up in CNN hysteria I am not speaking of Obama I am speaking of the Messiah Jesus."
Jesus was in the Matrix? I must have missed him?
"The thought of Max and Mel being married *yuck*"
Don't you mean a match made in heaven?
"The cost of painting the Whitehouse Halloween colors like Slogbite.com (or dogbite as Chocolate Girl uses to remember it) $700 billion."
I think that's a slight miscalculation.
"The cost of Max forcing everybody to do yoga and being stuck in positions so they can’t go to work $749.9 billion."
So she IS a contortionist.
"The thought of Max and Mel being in the Whitehouse *yuck* they wouldn’t have time to blog then!"
That would be first a foremost. In fact, they would implement a blog in every household.
Have hope for a better America.
Max & Mel,
ReplyDeleteI can hear it. It's ringing in my ears. It has a good ring to it. Yeah, it sounds good.
"Alexys........Where are you????"
It has taken me some time to catch up. Where are you guys at 3 AM when I am up and about?
I Didn't abandon you.
Dear Alexys, Max and Mel/Slogbite/Dogbite…..
ReplyDeleteIt has been said of Max and I quote “She's flexible. Some might call her a contortionist”
:)
This is because her positions are continually contorting and twisting….
:)
Alexys I had guessed that you were the Empress behind the two Vader twins….
:)
I knew it!!!!! Now the comment word verification says TurnToTheDarkSide
LS,
ReplyDelete"I am Canadian and not supporting voting for either candidate…You know on another blog I was accused of being an Obama supporter! So if both sides think I am on the other side I am right where I want to be…"
I know that...but you have an opinion of your own about the US elections, as you have so well proved. Oh, so....on other blogs you show your support to Senator Obama, but on yours you give him a hard time...nice!
LOL
"The question of who Jesus would vote for is a mute point. He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings, absolute perfect monarchy; we humans are not capable of that here and now but the Other Side is going to be glorious!!…."
The Lord of the Lords is Hashem; and so the King of Kings. Jesus was one of His servants, only with a special task. We will be 100 years old and I will still be telling you the same things LOL!
"LOL As for Obama’s diplomacy he is rather a beastial mess “I’m a hawk, I’m a dove, I’m a hawk, I’m a dove, I’m a jellyfish, Joe what am I today?”"
That line doesn't work anymore! Next you will be telling me how week a speaker he is; how little substance he has etc etc...
"What kind of propaganda are you trying on here gal?!!! I don’t like either of the candidates but on Sunday I will announce who I will be supporting!!!"
ROFL....I see you on Sunday, then! :)
"Max dear with your yoga platform the whole nation would be in a fit they would be tied in knots and productivity would fall…they would be fit to be tied…"
You should open your mind to ancient methods, LS...I do yoga and I am more productive than many people I know....
"Certainly I would miss you! If you were so busy in the Whitehouse you would have no time for our conversations and how would you be the sci-fi gal you are growing to be? **nodding**nodding again***"
ROFL....ROFL.....ROFL....*nodding*....that was cute in a strange kind of way LOL.....
Alexys and Max….
ReplyDeleteMax and then Alexys said
"....you kill me, girl LOL LOL LOL!"
“No, no, no. It won't work if you are killed.”
Max may believe that she will be reincarnated as a Born in the USA citizen…But not as Bruce Springsteen…thankfully…
LS & Mel,
ReplyDelete"(This is starting to look like one of my Survivor articles)"
True LOL....
"see tongue is hanging out with a silly doggy face….*nodding*"
I find it cute....
"“Use the force Max use the force”"
ROFL...."The Force is with me!"....are you Vader LOL?
Boy, I loved Star Wars...
"As far as priorities where is the chocolate?"
Schedule a meeting with us, and we might negotiate on that....
"Media: “What are your qualifications to be in the Whitehouse?”"
I was a governor at Life on the Blade, a mayor at Souls Meets World, and I do some volunteering work on SlogBite (meaning that I have a lot of experience in community work). My record sheet for foreign affairs is extensive, I was an embassador at: Arte Y Mundo (Argentina), Philohanna (Italy), Reflections of myself (Portugal), Chronicles & Tales Unlimited, Lavanderia Virtual, Vianjando no Blog, Luz de Luma (Brazil)....
About National Security: as a governor at Life on the Blade I had innumerous opportunity to deal with the secret services with agent Bernard (Entangled Webs) and his mission to save the Vatican...
LOL
"Media: “Oh you have descended to us from upon high we will support you as long as you are pro choice and have never shot a moose”…"
I am pro-life, and I would shoot a moose.
Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDelete"No drugs Mel. That could ruin Max's chances of winning."
ROFL....
"If you must have something, Alanis Morisette has a Jagged Little Pill for you."
ROFL.....
"Is LS your pusher?"
ROFL....excellent question!! LOL....*nodding*
Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDelete"Don't worry. I have friends in high places. ;D"
Oh, we know that without you we can't do this, girl! ;D
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"No, no, no. It won't work if you are killed."
LOL you are right...I'll be "staying alive" LOL!
"I assure you that waterboarding or water sports of any kind are not involved."
Ok, we must discuss the details in our meeting in Turks and Caicos, over the weekend....
"That's how I roll! LOL. Madonna will lobby to audition. She will try to sweet talk Webber. She will send him gifts of the finest chocolates and wine, but she will eventually give up when he hires someone who ca actually sing and act."
LOL I like the way you roll! ROFL....You must help Webber selecting the right girl for the show!
"ROFL. ROFL. It is contagious."
ROFL....
We Will Win Cheers
Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDelete"After all, gum is meant to be chewed, not swallowed. LOL."
ROFL....ROFL......
"Already taken care of. Max you have been approved."
I knew I could count on you *High Five*!!! I told Mel you would succeed!
"Max, don't think of it as him letting you go, think of it as him letting you roam. He wants the best for you, he will understand."
But now that you managed to alter the constitution, he can be my first Lord....
"Is your duty to us or to your husband? Exactly - to us!"
You are right: the Nation comes first!
"I did inquire. They said that in 2012, they were going to have a same sex couple in the white house (much to the chagrin of LS) and that this is the year of Max and Mel."
ROFL@ chagrin of LS! 2012 is our year, did you hear that Mel?
Sweet Dream Cheers
*tap*tap*tap (me tapping my foot as Blogger globally crashes because of something we said?)....
ReplyDeleteHi Max…
A compressed look at the “serious conversation” you said:
Well, ethics discusses the right conduct and good life by analysing good and wron; morality may be viewed as the synonymous of ethics (since it is a code of conduct in matters of good and wrong)...
what if one is not destined to undergo a metamorphosis of the soul? What if one destined to be ethical only? Is the second more corrupt than the first? Hmmm....
Now, how can you say that you are not interested in ethics nor morality, when they come straight from God? When we are born we know what is right and what is wrong: it is an innate knowledge.
However, you are more than willing to accept the texts written by Paul (a man).
I respond:
First I have been attempting to keep the conversation as secular as I could pertaining to our first interchange now I will go beyond that….
Humans are made in the image of God yet since the Fall we are a broken dirtied “image”. There is common grace as spoken of in Romans 1 (as part of God’s creation we can taste some of His goodness such as the Sun on our face, cool water in our mouths, petting a puppies ears that kind of thing). We also have the restraining work of the Holy Spirit in genuine God followers and at times when He touches upon history such as with His Word…
So in those ways we can taste good or you may call it ethics. I tend to see ethics as more personal and popular choices in what is right and wrong. For example society does make massive shifts in ethics on things like gay issues yet God has not changed…You know that I am not picking on that one particular sin as I am also a sinner it is just a prime example.
If as you say children born with a knowledge of right and wrong then they are not innocents. If one were to strike or murder another they should be treated just like adults. Indeed they are innocents and they also have a proclivity towards sin like we all do. Children will knock each other down in the playground even if they have never seen an adult do it.
Morality and ethics are simply decorations they cannot transform, they may hide the ugly sin beneath but it is still there.
I do receive the entire Bible New Testament and Old as being from God and I believe it is reasonable to do so plus you know I will be launching a new series on this very topic very soon…
Our conversation…
LS: "Let me give a practical example I am an employee, when my supervisor is not around why should I still work hard?"
MAX: Because it is your duty to work hard, and do the best you can - this is the ethics of work.
I respond:
If it is not form God then you are just expressing opinion that you have no right to shove on others if they choose to be lazy….
You said:
Very interesting...than the same could be said of Paul's words...why should people mind a mere human's opinion; why should they follow the intellectual produce of that apostle? Just because it was added to the Christian Bible?
I respond:
If the Bible is not from God then it is survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, all bets are off do whatever you want…there is no good there is no evil….However I believe it is reasonable to trust that the Bible is from God….
You said:
When you talk of God transforming someone: do you include Muslim, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists and Axés?
I respond:
God offers transformation to everybody thru Jesus alone….the rest (including atheists) are all playing at the same thing religion, self help, ethics and rules, popular opinion, individual choice….
You said:
Did they appeal to the High Authority or to their notion of High Authority?
I respond:
Wait till this Sunday….
:)
Slogbite…..
ReplyDeleteAs you said….
"Mel my friend you seem like a nice guy but honestly I’m not interested in you that way…"
-Not me, Max (Oh....you know what I mean)
LOL LOL LOL Had you scrambling on the keyboard to “straighten” that one out! LOL
I know you have a thing for Yoda all that contorting and stuff…. LOL
Alexys dear….
ReplyDeleteI’m not a pusher I am a “Bible Thumper”… LOL
However I am on the bandwagon for Max becoming a sci-fi gal how about you? Have you converted to sci-fi? LOL
Max….
ReplyDeleteLOL
I don’t support either Obama or McCain but when disagree with a particular position a candidate holds people automatically think you must support another person and their opinion it is possible to think they are both wrong on a topic….
I give everybody a hard time on my blogs! LOL I think I will have some fun with you over there quite soon…
Yes the One True God, Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings….
They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." - -Revelation 17:14 (TNIV)
LOL You think we will live to 100? LOL
Max I must provide my quote followed by your quote and then my response for you to follow this:
I said: "LOL As for Obama’s diplomacy he is rather a beastial mess “I’m a hawk, I’m a dove, I’m a hawk, I’m a dove, I’m a jellyfish, Joe what am I today?”"
You said: That line doesn't work anymore! Next you will be telling me how week a speaker he is; how little substance he has etc etc...
I respond:
LOL LOL Well it does as you say it does take Obama a “week” to speak….You typed right into that one my dear….LOL
On to other topics…Max I am open to ancient methods! I like the wheel, fire is nice when used properly and I thank the Romans for baths…..
You said:
ROFL....ROFL.....ROFL....*nodding*....that was cute in a strange kind of way LOL.....
I respond:
ROFL well I am a strange kind of guy…..LOL
Max….
ReplyDeleteAs you said:
ROFL...."The Force is with me!"....are you Vader LOL?
Boy, I loved Star Wars...
I respond:
VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROFL
The Bloginating Governator….
ROFL Bernard and the Vatican! You have been paying attention!!!!!
You said:
I am pro-life, and I would shoot a moose.
I respond:
Max my dear you have just turned CNN and its friends against you. You will now be treated as intellectually inept and not a real woman…Well for awhile there I thought you may have actually had a shot at the Whitehouse (even with you trying to Force yogurt on everybody Yoda Girl)…
I dare you to put “I am pro-life, and I would shoot a moose.” On your header! LOL LOL
Now that Blogger is back up I can add my 2 bits.
ReplyDeleteAlexys, Max & LS,
Holy Moly....I am on a conference call for an hour (some of us have to work you know) and I come back and I just can't keep up with this.
I know, I know, according to Obama, a President must learn to multi-task.....I'm trying, I'm trying.
I have an idea.........
Alexys - You will be our Press Secretary and Secretary of State. You know how to spin a good yarn and no one can say "no" to you.
LS - You can be our Secretary of Defense, and we will create a new position called the Secretary of Moral Superiority. I don't think that this needs any explanation (smirk with eye brows raised.)
Talk about a dysfunctional family!!!
Alexys, Max and Mel…..
ReplyDeleteI don’t select who I prefer in politics by their sexual preferences, married or unmarried gender, race, age, physical disability, or religion/faith. I am interested in merit, what they have accomplished in work in education, in life, their ideas, their character and their leadership (in no particular order)…
My current Member of Parliament that I have now voted for three straight times is an East Indian Canadian (we would say IndoCandian) female.
However I do not support same sex marriage….we have had it in British Columbia now for several years…
you've just inspired me to do a post about ethics.
ReplyDeleteSlogbite/Mel, Max, Alexys…..
ReplyDeleteSlogbite you were on a conference call…you mean you do something besides blogging? I have heard of such creatures….
Obama is going to have to learn more than how to multi task he has to start with single tasking….
Equal time….
McCain is not as pretty as Chelsea Clinton….
Your suggestions….
Alexys - You will be our Press Secretary and Secretary of State. You know how to spin a good yarn and no one can say "no" to you.
LS - You can be our Secretary of Defense, and we will create a new position called the Secretary of Moral Superiority. I don't think that this needs any explanation (smirk with eye brows raised.)
I respond:
Alexys is very sweet, I like her, she does spin a good yarn but I have never bought it :)
…and no I am not saying this because she doesn’t visit my blogs and leave nice comments…. :)
Now about me…LOL…well the stereo type persists…Mel my friend if you have followed the conversation between Max and myself you will see that I actually think human morality is not the way to go, that it is bankrupt as is religion…I believe in transformation of me by God from within…It is not about self help thinking positive or following rules or religion…
LS & Max,
ReplyDeleteI am truly hurt that you would think that I, Spiritual Goddess would ever turn to the dark side. (A tear slowly forms in my eye.) Isn't that the story of Wicked?
"This is because her positions are continually contorting and twisting"
Are you calling our dear Max a flip-flopper?
"Alexys I had guessed that you were the Empress behind the two Vader twins."
You are right.
Alexys, Max, Mel…..
ReplyDeleteAlexys you said…
LS, how could you not be impressed that we managed to keep it going? Surely that is impressive.
I respond…
Alexys dear I am more than able to blab on endlessly! LOL
You said:
You can have Oprah - and Gayle! Please take them off of our hands.
I respond:
Gayle?
You said:
Jesus was in the Matrix? I must have missed him?
I respond:
:) Jesus misses you Alexys….do you understand the concept of grace?
You said…
"The thought of Max and Mel being married *yuck*"
-Don't you mean a match made in heaven?
I respond:
Let me think about it no, let me think about it again still no….
You said:
The cost of painting the Whitehouse Halloween colors like Slogbite.com (or dogbite as Chocolate Girl uses to remember it) $700 billion."
- I think that's a slight miscalculation.
I respond:
There have been a lot of financial miscalculations of late… :)
You said:
"The cost of Max forcing everybody to do yoga and being stuck in positions so they can’t go to work $749.9 billion."
- So she IS a contortionist.
I respond:
Of body and words….
Cool talking with ya gal….
LS,
ReplyDeleteI just had to say something....back a few comments ago you compared Max to Yoda. I see her more like Cleopatra, or modern day ..... Halle Berry. So I'm a romantic at heart.
But, Yoda?????
Max & LS,
ReplyDelete"Max may believe that she will be reincarnated as a Born in the USA citizen…But not as Bruce Springsteen…thankfully…"
Yes and no. Max will be reincarnated, but not as Springsteen who sounds like a choking frog. She will have a glorious life in Miami, Florida in her early years, then she will move to Malibu California in her latter years. I am looking at the blueprint now. Max will have a fabulous life full of love and honor and a couple of sweet surprises.
Max, Mel, LS,
ReplyDeleteKeeping it rolling. I can't believe we are having a blog party like this.
Party Cheers.
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"Oh, we know that without you we can't do this, girl! ;D"
God knows. :D
Max,
ReplyDelete"I'll be "staying alive" LOL!"
Good.
"Whether you're a brother
Or whether you're a mother,
You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Feel the city breakin'
And ev'rybody shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive..."
Everybody now, "Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive.."
"Ok, we must discuss the details in our meeting in Turks and Caicos, over the weekend."
Bu of course. We must tell Mel and LS that public nudity is illegal throughout the islands so they must be on the best behavior.
"LOL I like the way you roll! ROFL....You must help Webber selecting the right girl for the show!"
I will. I will. Andy and I are like this (crossing middle finger over index finger.)
We Will Definitely Win Cheers.
Max & Mel,
ReplyDelete"I knew I could count on you *High Five*!!! I told Mel you would succeed!"
I actually had to get my peeps to implement a newly formed Citizenship Exchange Program. Citizens can exchange citizenship with citizens of other countries for 5 years before the application must be re-approved or denied. It took me all morning to do it, but eventually we hugged it out.
"But now that you managed to alter the constitution, he can be my first Lord."
Definitely. He is already your king, why not Lord as well. And as LS would say Lord and Savior.
"You are right: the Nation comes first!"
You are such a good citizen. I am going to get you an autographed picture of the president. See how lucky you are.
"ROFL@ chagrin of LS! 2012 is our year, did you hear that Mel?"
It's written in the stars.
Sweet Dream Cheers Are Made Of These (Who am I to disagree?....)
LS,
ReplyDelete"I’m not a pusher I am a “Bible Thumper”… LOL"
Isn't that the same thing? ;D
"However I am on the bandwagon for Max becoming a sci-fi gal how about you? Have you converted to sci-fi? LOL"
I watch the science channel and Bill Nye the Science Guy.
Max, Mel, LS,
ReplyDelete"Now that Blogger is back up I can add my 2 bits."
Was Blogger down again? I must have missed it.
"Holy Moly....I am on a conference call for an hour (some of us have to work you know) and I come back and I just can't keep up with this."
Mel, this is priority. Put everything on hold like we did.
"Alexys - You will be our Press Secretary and Secretary of State. You know how to spin a good yarn and no one can say "no" to you."
I accept. I am so happy to be working with you all.
"LS - You can be our Secretary of Defense, and we will create a new position called the Secretary of Moral Superiority. I don't think that this needs any explanation (smirk with eye brows raised.)"
That is a good position too.
"Talk about a dysfunctional family!!!"
Dysfunctional is the new black!
Max, LS, Mel,
ReplyDelete"I don’t select who I prefer in politics by their sexual preferences, married or unmarried gender, race, age, physical disability, or religion/faith. I am interested in merit, what they have accomplished in work in education, in life, their ideas, their character and their leadership (in no particular order)…"
That works for me.
"My current Member of Parliament that I have now voted for three straight times is an East Indian Canadian (we would say IndoCandian) female."
Cool.
"However I do not support same sex marriage….we have had it in British Columbia now for several years."
I totally respect your opinion.
LS, Max, Mel,
ReplyDelete"Alexys is very sweet, I like her, she does spin a good yarn but I have never bought it :)
…and no I am not saying this because she doesn’t visit my blogs and leave nice comments…. :)"
Oh come on LS, you buy it hook, line and sinker. You know it. Actually your site is so rich that I can't visit it until I upgrade my computer. The page doesn't load.
I am there in spirit.
LS, Max Mel,
ReplyDelete"Alexys dear I am more than able to blab on endlessly! LOL"
That I know.
"Gayle?"
LOL. Yes, Gayle her BFF.
"Jesus misses you Alexy."
Jesus know exactly where I am my dear.
"...do you understand the concept of grace?"
I do.
"Let me think about it no, let me think about it again still no."
Come on LS. They make a lovely wedding cake couple. It doesn't get any better than that.
"There have been a lot of financial miscalculations of late… :)"
That's true.
"Of body and words."
She is definitely a muli-tasker.
"Cool talking with ya gal."
It was wasn't it? ;D
Max,
ReplyDeleteCongrats on getting over 100 comments. Yay!
Your mother will have lots to read now.
Thanks for the cool party.
Cool Party Cheers.
Alexys,
ReplyDeleteYou weren't going to stop until you hit the 100, were you. That's my girl (in a very non-sexist way). You see what you want and you go get it.
Mel,
ReplyDeleteActually it was more of a coincidence. This stream will probably get into the 200's.
Max will awake and be amazed, then she will curse us for having to answer all of the comments.
Max & Alexys (and maybe LS),
ReplyDeleteI hate to throw a monkey wrench in the whole campaign, but, I wasn't exactly born in the US either. I was kinda born in the UK. I am a naturalized citizen of the US though. So Alexys, you had better get that dang old constitution changed or we are up a creek without a paddle.
Alexys, it all falls on you....no pressure, but don't let us down. The fate of the entire world (Canada excluded, it's not a real country anyway) is now on your shoulders. We are counting on you!!!
Alexys,
ReplyDeleteKnowing Max, she will read every word and and respond to everything. She will be pissed.
Mel & Max,
ReplyDeleteAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! No, now you tell me.
I am getting the govenator on the phone. We have some serious issues to iron out.
I think somehow that LS is to blame. He was jealous of your union with Max.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Pennies on the dollar. Don't worry, AIG will pick up the tab - then the government will bail them out."
Ah ok...just keep me posted on the expenditures; we need to have enough money for the TV ads!
"How about Nobody Does It Better?"
That is GREAT! Specially because it is true: Nobody Does It Better! LOL
Chanting Cheers
LS and Mel,
ReplyDelete"Do I push the button and stop all of our oil from entering the cute little country to the south leaving them without their largest supply of oil (bigger than Saudi, Iraq and Mexico combined)?"
No need to get sensitive, darling...
"Or do push the button to stop all of our exports of electricity which is supplied to California and half of the other US states? Of course it may mean they will stop letting us watch SouthPark….But hey we make Battlestar Galactica so who needs SouthPark… Now be nice and act like the Simpsons a far better show and written by Canadians…"
Touchy, touchy....lol.
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"He is as safe as one can be teaching kindergartners. LOL. Did you see the film Kindergarten Cop?"
LOL...I did watch that movie (your governor was in it, right?)...it was funny.
"She died long ago even when she was living. Misery does that to people."
True!
"So it shall be done!"
Aaaahhh, you make me happy *High Five*!
New America Cheers
Alexys, LS and Mel;
ReplyDelete"You can have Oprah - and Gayle! Please take them off of our hands."
ROFL....yes, please take them!
"Jesus was in the Matrix? I must have missed him?"
ROFL....I did see him - he was Neo's best friend and guide!
"That would be first a foremost. In fact, they would implement a blog in every household."
Yes, at least in 95% of the American households!
"Have hope for a better America."
Yes, repeat after us: "Nobody Does it Better!"
Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDelete"It has taken me some time to catch up. Where are you guys at 3 AM when I am up and about?"
Blogger kicked me out around 20:30 my time!
Why Blogger, why? Are you a Rep?
"I Didn't abandon you."
Nor have we, girl! You are a crucial member of this campaign!
Hi LS,
ReplyDelete"*tap*tap*tap (me tapping my foot as Blogger globally crashes because of something we said?)...."
Political sabotage!
"A compressed look at the “serious conversation” you said:"
Were there other type of conversation in here? LOL everything we say IS serious LOL!
"First I have been attempting to keep the conversation as secular as I could pertaining to our first interchange now I will go beyond that…."
LOL LOL say what? You so did not keep the conversation secular, I even suspect you don't recall what it is like to be secular, LS LOL *nodding*!
"Humans are made in the image of God yet since the Fall we are a broken dirtied “image”."
I don't agree that we are a "broken dirtied image". Our body is imperfect, yes; but our spirit (made in His image) is not. Now, our soul may, or not, be influenced by the imperfection of the body, but still it has ethics/morality carved on it. I have given a lot of thought to this Fallen nature theory, and I don't accept it (for the reasons given in your blog).
"We also have the restraining work of the Holy Spirit in genuine God followers and at times when He touches upon history such as with His Word…"
"genuine God followers"? You mean genuine Jesus followers? Not the same...
"For example society does make massive shifts in ethics on things like gay issues yet God has not changed…You know that I am not picking on that one particular sin as I am also a sinner it is just a prime example."
Ethics doesn't shift. The choice to abide to ethics shifts. It is ethical to treat gay people as the human beings that they are, and thank God society decided to act the right way, to do good.
Hashem commanded us to love others the same way we love ourselves, he didn't say "except gays, prostitutes, adulterers etc"; and Jesus repeated this in the NT (and he didn't say "except gays, prostitutes, adulterers etc" either).
"If as you say children born with a knowledge of right and wrong then they are not innocents."
I never said kids were innocent, because I believe in reincarnation...remember?
"Children will knock each other down in the playground even if they have never seen an adult do it."
You are supporting my thesis: ethics (analysis of good and wrong) is engraved in our soul. Children know that knocking others down is wrong, but why do they do it? What is the root of the action (not taught by an adult)?
Existence is not a straight line, as you know so well....nevertheless, we all know what is right and wrong from birth.
"Morality and ethics are simply decorations they cannot transform, they may hide the ugly sin beneath but it is still there."
Transformation is an Utopia. Real Transformation only occurs once you leave your body.
"I do receive the entire Bible New Testament and Old as being from God and I believe it is reasonable to do so plus you know I will be launching a new series on this very topic very soon…"
The New testament is more of a history book and the philosophy of a convert.
"If the Bible is not from God then it is survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, all bets are off do whatever you want…there is no good there is no evil….However I believe it is reasonable to trust that the Bible is from God…"
Oh the OT is from God, the NT is not.
"God offers transformation to everybody thru Jesus alone….the rest (including atheists) are all playing at the same thing religion, self help, ethics and rules, popular opinion, individual choice…."
HA! *nodding*...
"Wait till this Sunday…."
Ok.... :)
LS,
ReplyDelete"I don’t support either Obama or McCain but when disagree with a particular position a candidate holds people automatically think you must support another person and their opinion it is possible to think they are both wrong on a topic…"
You may not support one or another, but the fact is in your blog you seem to sway towards Senator McCain, and you designed sophisticated arguments to defend his ludicrous campaign....
"I give everybody a hard time on my blogs! LOL I think I will have some fun with you over there quite soon…"
ROFL...oh?
"Yes the One True God, Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings…."
LOL...we already had this conversation....you wish to keep dwelling in illusion, fo ahead!
"LOL You think we will live to 100? LOL"
LOL I do....we both exercise, we don't smoke, we laugh half of the time, we eat proper food...
"LOL LOL Well it does as you say it does take Obama a “week” to speak….You typed right into that one my dear….LOL"
LOL...Resistance is futile; you will be assimilated! LOL....
"On to other topics…Max I am open to ancient methods! I like the wheel, fire is nice when used properly and I thank the Romans for baths…"
LOL LOL...*nodding*...what should I expect from a person who thinks that Jesus is God?
"ROFL well I am a strange kind of guy…..LOL"
LOL I can see that....
LS,
ReplyDelete"VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL"
ROFL....
"The Bloginating Governator…."
ROFL.....
"ROFL Bernard and the Vatican! You have been paying attention!!!!!"
LOL LOL LOL LOL....but of course, it is all part of my experience in National Security LOL!
"Max my dear you have just turned CNN and its friends against you. You will now be treated as intellectually inept and not a real woman…Well for awhile there I thought you may have actually had a shot at the Whitehouse (even with you trying to Force yogurt on everybody Yoda Girl)…"
ROFL...well, I am a free spirit consistent pro-life (what you do is between you and the Lord, I say).
If they treat a certain lady as intellectually inept it is because she gives that impression. I mean, she doesn't even know what newspapers she reads, and she doesn't understand the questions made to her...Hmmm...it sounds like an intellectual inept to me.
About her being pro-life...she isn't, because she says that she admits abortion in certain cases (meaning that she agrees that there are times when she'd choose when to make an abortion...I'd say she's a pro-choice, which is different than being pro-abortion).
"I dare you to put “I am pro-life, and I would shoot a moose.” On your header! LOL LOL"
LOL why, don't you like my nude human being gazing at existence?
Mel,
ReplyDelete"Now that Blogger is back up I can add my 2 bits."
Oh, it went down on you too?
"Holy Moly....I am on a conference call for an hour (some of us have to work you know) and I come back and I just can't keep up with this."
LOL LOL LOL....
"I know, I know, according to Obama, a President must learn to multi-task.....I'm trying, I'm trying."
I have mastered that technique; and if I did, you will too, Mel!! :D
"Alexys - You will be our Press Secretary and Secretary of State. You know how to spin a good yarn and no one can say "no" to you."
Great idea! True: no one can say "no" to her!
"LS - You can be our Secretary of Defense, and we will create a new position called the Secretary of Moral Superiority. I don't think that this needs any explanation (smirk with eye brows raised.)"
ROFL...this position suits him well (Lord have mercy on the American People once we cut him loose)!
"Talk about a dysfunctional family!!!"
ROFL...true, but at least we show results!
LS, Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDeleteI don't support same sex marriage (because the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman); however I do support Legal Unions, so that gay people are entitled to social benefits.
They are tax payers just like any of us, so why not be entitled to the same social benefits as the rest of the lot?
Denying this to them is sexual orientation discrimination, and we shall not tolerate discrimination, of any kind, in this world any longer!
Hey Ruben, :D
ReplyDeleteIt will be a pleasure to read it, man :D!
Cheers and thanks for dropping by!
LS, Mel & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Slogbite you were on a conference call…you mean you do something besides blogging? I have heard of such creatures…."
ROFL...
"Obama is going to have to learn more than how to multi task he has to start with single tasking…."
*smirk*....
"Alexys is very sweet, I like her, she does spin a good yarn but I have never bought it :)
…and no I am not saying this because she doesn’t visit my blogs and leave nice comments…. :)"
I am shocked! I hadn't seen this facette of yours yet...I expected so much more from a Jesus follower *smirk*...
"Now about me…LOL…well the stereo type persists…Mel my friend if you have followed the conversation between Max and myself you will see that I actually think human morality is not the way to go, that it is bankrupt as is religion…I believe in transformation of me by God from within…It is not about self help thinking positive or following rules or religion…"
LS...the role suits you well; and we are blessed to have you in office. However if you were about transformation you wouldn't be so prone to judgement, but prone to love and acceptance.
Judgement walks hand in hand with moral superiority (a concept that I deny).
Mel & LS,
ReplyDelete"I just had to say something....back a few comments ago you compared Max to Yoda. I see her more like Cleopatra, or modern day ..... Halle Berry. So I'm a romantic at heart."
Oooh, that is so cute "romantic at heart"!
But I do hope you are comparing me to Cleopatra's beauty (because her character was twisted)!
Halle Berry? Oh no, that lady is way more beautiful than I am, trust me!
"But, Yoda?????"
Mel, LS is comparing me to Yoda because he recognises my power, he knows that the Force is with me...it is in that sense!
Max & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"I don't support same sex marriage (because the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman); however I do support Legal Unions, so that gay people are entitled to social benefits.
They are tax payers just like any of us, so why not be entitled to the same social benefits as the rest of the lot?
Denying this to them is sexual orientation discrimination, and we shall not tolerate discrimination, of any kind, in this world any longer!"
- More truth coming out.....On this we have to disagree (I think.) I have a gay son who lives in NY with his partner. He have no intentions on getting married. But if they did, I would support them 100%
We have friends who have a gay daughter. Three weeks ago we went to her marriage. She married an LAPD officer. And I swear, half of the LA Police department were there in support, and boy, do they know how to have a good time. It was probably the nicest and most respectful wedding I have ever been to. In all good conscience, I can not deny that to the gay community.
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Everybody now, "Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive..."
Ah, ha, ha, ha Stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvveeee...!
"Bu of course. We must tell Mel and LS that public nudity is illegal throughout the islands so they must be on the best behavior."
ROFL...yes, I'll send them the memo today before we leave, otherwise we shall be exposed to exposure LOL!
"I will. I will. Andy and I are like this (crossing middle finger over index finger.)"
I knew it!! I saw the way he looks at you!
We Will Definitely Win - Amen Cheers
Alexys, Mel & LS
ReplyDeleteOh my....we are so blessed with a magnificent administration: Mel, Alexys & LS...we will be unbeatable!
"I accept. I am so happy to be working with you all."
We are happy to have you with us, girl!
"Dysfunctional is the new black!"
ROFL....which is fine cause: black don't crack! So, we are here for the long haul!
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Congrats on getting over 100 comments. Yay!"
LOL guys you are off the hook, that's all I can say! Where did I leave my "100 comments" speech? I know I had it with me....
"Your mother will have lots to read now."
ROFL...true!
"Thanks for the cool party."
Don't mention it; it was a pleasure to have you here - and boy, you can dance! I saw your moves, girl!
We thank you!!
Cool Party Cheers
Alexys & Mel,
ReplyDelete"Max will awake and be amazed, then she will curse us for having to answer all of the comments."
LOL LOL...no, I won't curse you...I selected which messages I'd reply to LOL....
Max,
ReplyDelete"But I do hope you are comparing me to Cleopatra's beauty (because her character was twisted)!
Halle Berry? Oh no, that lady is way more beautiful than I am, trust me!"
- Yes, her beauty. Your outside is secondary to what is within.
"Mel, LS is comparing me to Yoda because he recognises my power, he knows that the Force is with me...it is in that sense!"
- I know that! I was just trying get under his skin....you know, make him squirm a little.
Mel, Alexys, & (maybe) LS,
ReplyDelete"I hate to throw a monkey wrench in the whole campaign, but, I wasn't exactly born in the US either. I was kinda born in the UK. I am a naturalized citizen of the US though. So Alexys, you had better get that dang old constitution changed or we are up a creek without a paddle."
Oh my...could life get sweeter? So, Mel...you are a natural European! And one of the best kind too: British! This will be even better!!!
Mel, she managed to change it!!
"Alexys, it all falls on you....no pressure, but don't let us down. The fate of the entire world (Canada excluded, it's not a real country anyway) is now on your shoulders. We are counting on you!!!"
ROFL....
Mel & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Knowing Max, she will read every word and and respond to everything. She will be pissed."
Yes, I read every word, but I selected a few to reply to! LOL
LOL LOL LOL no, I was not crossed...I laughed my eyes out!!
Mel,
ReplyDelete"Yes, her beauty. Your outside is secondary to what is within."
Oooh, thank you, darling *bowing*! You are a true gentleman!
"I know that! I was just trying get under his skin....you know, make him squirm a little."
LOL I know, my answer has the same intention: to get to his wits! But I am not sure we will succeed...LS is cold as a rock LOL!
Mel & Alexys,
ReplyDelete"More truth coming out.....On this we have to disagree (I think.) I have a gay son who lives in NY with his partner. He have no intentions on getting married. But if they did, I would support them 100%"
We don't disagree, Mel; I just have changed the name of the union. But in essence we are in accord.
If your son decided to be legally united to his partner I would support them 100% too.
"We have friends who have a gay daughter. Three weeks ago we went to her marriage. She married an LAPD officer. And I swear, half of the LA Police department were there in support, and boy, do they know how to have a good time. It was probably the nicest and most respectful wedding I have ever been to. In all good conscience, I can not deny that to the gay community."
A legal union is exactly the same thing.
Max & Elexys,
ReplyDelete""More truth coming out.....On this we have to disagree (I think.) I have a gay son who lives in NY with his partner. He have no intentions on getting married. But if they did, I would support them 100%"
We don't disagree, Mel; I just have changed the name of the union. But in essence we are in accord.
If your son decided to be legally united to his partner I would support them 100% too.
"We have friends who have a gay daughter. Three weeks ago we went to her marriage. She married an LAPD officer. And I swear, half of the LA Police department were there in support, and boy, do they know how to have a good time. It was probably the nicest and most respectful wedding I have ever been to. In all good conscience, I can not deny that to the gay community."
A legal union is exactly the same thing."
- Then on with the campaign!!!! We make a hell (heck) of a team, after all, you don't believe in hell....and neither do I.
What I do believe is that a tortured soul can remain in torment even after death. I think that is is crucial for everyone to forgive themselves before passing.....just a little aside.
Now back to saving the world!!!
Mel,
ReplyDelete"Then on with the campaign!!!! We make a hell (heck) of a team, after all, you don't believe in hell....and neither do I."
YES! Yes we do! No, we don't believe i hell!
"What I do believe is that a tortured soul can remain in torment even after death. I think that is is crucial for everyone to forgive themselves before passing.....just a little aside."
I agree with you. And I also add that there are souls that get stuck in-between realms (the spiritual realm and the physical one), and that by itself is a torment (not be able to go back Home).
"Now back to saving the world!"
Absolutely!
Max,
ReplyDelete"I agree with you. And I also add that there are souls that get stuck in-between realms (the spiritual realm and the physical one), and that by itself is a torment (not be able to go back Home)."
- TOTAL AGREEMENT!!!
Mel,
ReplyDeleteSuperb *high five*!
Max & Mel,
ReplyDeleteEvery party has it stragglers. It's time to leave and enjoy your weekend. Just think how much more you will have to talk about on Monday.
I am still counting on you both to pull America through it's turmoil.
Have a great weekend.
Did we lose LS?
Alexys,
ReplyDelete"Every party has it stragglers. It's time to leave and enjoy your weekend. Just think how much more you will have to talk about on Monday."
You are right...ladies, & gents, put down your glasses and pleases go home!
We will see you on Monday, darling!
"I am still counting on you both to pull America through it's turmoil."
You can count on us!! :D
"Have a great weekend."
Thanks! Have a fantastic weekend!
"Did we lose LS?"
I hope not! We need our secretary of defense & moral superiority!
Ciao
Max & Alexys,
ReplyDeleteOh....I think LS is lurking out there somewhere, just waiting for us have our guards down......to strike when we least expect it. He can move pretty quick on those "blades" of his. No matter how many "Yucks" he proclaims, I think, in his heart, way down deep, he is with us.
Let's all have a great weekend!!
Max, 135 and you haven't even hit the weekend traffic yet.
Mel,
ReplyDeleteI also think LS is with us!
Have a superb weekend, Mel...and thanks for the great party :D!
"Max, 135 and you haven't even hit the weekend traffic yet."
Tell me about it!
Cheerio, Mel!
Oh wow! I didn't comment on this before because I didn't have anything to say, but I was shocked to come back and see 136 comments! Do you always get this many comments Max? You are amazing! :)
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ReplyDeleteExcellent post. I absolutely agree with you on all points.
I have been on both sides of the help issue, and I don't pretend to be an expert, but I think if you treat people well and with respect, it will come back to you. The opposite is true also. If you treat them badly, that will get back to you too. I worked for a company once that fired people at the drop of a hat. They called them names and humiliated people at every opportunity. It was disgusting. I spoke to the CEO about his unprofessional methods. He told me that he was the general and they were the privates. So, like the Army, they had to march to his orders. I told him that I found his position very peculiar - especially since he had never been in the military!
Great post.
Happy trails.
Hey D! :D
ReplyDelete"Oh wow! I didn't comment on this before because I didn't have anything to say, but I was shocked to come back and see 136 comments! Do you always get this many comments Max? You are amazing! :)"
LOL No, darling...this was the very first time! It was an amazing week!
Why, thank you, dear :) *bowing*! But in this case the credit is not mine alone: Alexys, Mel and LS share it with me!!
Thanks for having dropped by, D; I loved the visit :D!
Cheers
Hey Swu :D!
ReplyDelete"Excellent post. I absolutely agree with you on all points."
Thank you, my dear friend *bowing*!
"I have been on both sides of the help issue, and I don't pretend to be an expert, but I think if you treat people well and with respect, it will come back to you. The opposite is true also. If you treat them badly, that will get back to you too."
Absolutely!
"I worked for a company once that fired people at the drop of a hat. They called them names and humiliated people at every opportunity. It was disgusting. I spoke to the CEO about his unprofessional methods. He told me that he was the general and they were the privates. So, like the Army, they had to march to his orders. I told him that I found his position very peculiar - especially since he had never been in the military!"
:O...disgusting indeed *nodding*! Obviously the CEO was misinformed on how the Army works (he is one of those who talks of things he ignores) *nodding*...
"Great post."
Thanks :D!
Swu, thank you for having dropped by and sharing your thoughts on this (not to mention the fact that you shared this significant personal experience with us) :D!
Cheers
Hi! You won’t get any argument out of me about treating someone as if they were less than human. Every hard working person deserves nothing but respect and a wholehearted thank you from the people they tend to.
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I tend to think that people that do these sorts of things see the servant as just a tool that can be muddied and put back in its rack without a thought. Perhaps it goes back to their upbringing but that’s no excuse for their poor form. As they look down on and mistreat others, they should be treated with the contempt they deserve and perhaps some pity, for they will never know what it is like to be truly loved and respected. Unfortunately I see the servant of a meanly employer hard pressed to change anything unless he or she speaks her mind. The consequences of that action compounded by the fact jobs are hard to come by, means many go on trapped within a despicable environment whilst continuing to support themselves and family. A sad state of affairs indeed!
The Employee Vs the Employer
I’ve experienced the very same thing you have mentioned here from more than one person in authority during my working lifetime. I can tell you it has taken its toll on me both physically and mentally. Not that I’m a spent force of course, it’s just that it peeves me so much to think it was done for their entertainment, or for helping them obtain kudos from their loyal for the moment followers or for assisting them climb the so called ladder of success. This unacceptable practise is well known as ‘bastardisation’ in the workplace. I’m now reminded of the quote from someone who condoned this type of behaviour, “If you have thin skin, you don’t deserve to be here.” Sad and pathetic, isn’t it? A workplace free from this, is a productive, cohesive and a joy to work in. That, I’ve been lucky to experience too!
The People Vs the Government
Down here we have a love and hate relationship going on with our ruling party. One minute they’re tightening the purse strings and the next minute dishing out the funds like there’s no tomorrow. But that’s politicians for you. Corruption issues are fairly well monitored here and any issues relating to that are dealt with harshly. Not harsh enough for some mind you, but you can’t please everyone. As for the current climate financial woes here and around the world, it is very perplexing to find politicians here giving themselves pay rises way beyond what would be considered justifiable when we’re struggling to cope. But I have the answer to that; they live in a different world to us.
Take Care,
Peter
Hi Peter!
ReplyDelete"You won’t get any argument out of me about treating someone as if they were less than human. Every hard working person deserves nothing but respect and a wholehearted thank you from the people they tend to."
Amen to that!
"I tend to think that people that do these sorts of things see the servant as just a tool that can be muddied and put back in its rack without a thought. Perhaps it goes back to their upbringing but that’s no excuse for their poor form."
Absolutely, Pete! Absolutely!
"As they look down on and mistreat others, they should be treated with the contempt they deserve and perhaps some pity, for they will never know what it is like to be truly loved and respected. Unfortunately I see the servant of a meanly employer hard pressed to change anything unless he or she speaks her mind. The consequences of that action compounded by the fact jobs are hard to come by, means many go on trapped within a despicable environment whilst continuing to support themselves and family. A sad state of affairs indeed!"
Selah!
"I’ve experienced the very same thing you have mentioned here from more than one person in authority during my working lifetime. I can tell you it has taken its toll on me both physically and mentally."
I can imagine, Peter *nodding*!
"Not that I’m a spent force of course, it’s just that it peeves me so much to think it was done for their entertainment, or for helping them obtain kudos from their loyal for the moment followers or for assisting them climb the so called ladder of success. This unacceptable practise is well known as ‘bastardisation’ in the workplace. I’m now reminded of the quote from someone who condoned this type of behaviour, “If you have thin skin, you don’t deserve to be here.” Sad and pathetic, isn’t it?"
Yes, it is pathetic!
"A workplace free from this, is a productive, cohesive and a joy to work in. That, I’ve been lucky to experience too!"
I agree! I am so glad for you, mate :D!
"Corruption issues are fairly well monitored here and any issues relating to that are dealt with harshly. Not harsh enough for some mind you, but you can’t please everyone."
At least they show that they fight corruption, which is good. No, you can't please everyone - it's impossible.
"As for the current climate financial woes here and around the world, it is very perplexing to find politicians here giving themselves pay rises way beyond what would be considered justifiable when we’re struggling to cope. But I have the answer to that; they live in a different world to us."
You are so generous, Peter! That is one of the reasons why I like you :D!
Mate, thanks a million for this superb comment! I always await anxiously to hear your thoughts on issues :D!
Cheers