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“There is no God” – here’s a sentence that shocks any servant of God. It is a phrase proudly uttered by most atheists.
I call upon the servants of the Lord not to be shocked for our atheist brothers/sisters, when systematically denying God, are in truth acknowledging the existence of our Creator.
There is only One God. The Lord Is the Ultimate Balance in whom the opposites dwell in Perfect Harmony: light/darkness; male/female; positive/negative; water/fire; peace/war; construction/destruction; love/severity etc.
As the Perfect Balance that Hashem (one of God’s names) is, He is both the Creator and the Non-Creator.
“Non-Creator”…this sounds rather heretical, doesn’t it? But after I explain what I mean by this, you’ll see that heresy is not born by my words. The Lord Is the Creator (i.e. the living God in His action), whom we choose to acknowledge and serve. By doing so, we have an idea of whom He Is, what He wants and what He doesn’t want. We also bear idea that He is Light, incorporeal, that He thinks and feel not like us (although there are many attempts to exercise anthropomorphism). This living God is “known” to us.
Hashem Is the “Non-Creator” (God in His occultation), whom Exists in Himself and Is concealed from the creatures. Since the “Non-Creator” is in occultation, there is no way that we can acknowledge Him, let alone get to “know” Him.
When our mind ignores something it fails to acknowledge its existence.
“God Exists” – this is true. We look at each other, we look at nature, and we intrinsically know the origin of all things (even if our Ego denies it). Whenever we behold the humanity, the compassion, the love in somebody’s eyes, we are immediately reminded of the Father (even if it is not our mission to consciously admit it).
“God doesn’t exist” – also true. The occulted God doesn’t exist in our minds (thus we acknowledge it not), because not only He is hidden from us but mainly because it is impossible (for the human mind) to grasp the majesty and significance of the occulted One.
Could there be darkness without light? Could there be male without female? Could there be negative without positive? Could there be peace without war? No.
Therefore when atheists affirm that “There is no God. He doesn’t exist” they are, in fact, proving that He does exist (that is, by denying the Lord they are admitting the reality of the God in occultation, the Non-Creator; hence, without realising it, they express the recognition of His opposite “The living God”, the Creator).
Image: The Martyrdom of St Matthew (detail) by Caravaggio
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Hi Max,
ReplyDeleteLove the image.
If there is no God, there is no us. If there is no us, then who is writing this - God's servant - oh wait, that's us. Atheists are a non prophet organization. They are the first to call God in emergencies.
You make a cogent argument. I think that atheists are preoccupied with God and have suffered an extreme consequence, i.e. death, disaster, illness that causes them to deny God's existence. They don't understand that things happen for a reason and God is the one pulling the stings and bringing the dreams.
I like the analogy that God is also the "Non-Creator." Brilliant. I get that on so many levels. God is in all things including "non things." God is everything and God is nothing.
“God Exists” – this is true. We look at each other, we look at nature, and we intrinsically know the origin of all things (even if our Ego denies it). Whenever we behold the humanity, the compassion, the love in somebody’s eyes, we are immediately reminded of the Father (even if it is not our mission to consciously admit it)."
Preach it!
"Could there be darkness without light?"
Darkness is it's own light.
"Therefore when atheists affirm that “There is no God. He doesn’t exist” they are, in fact, proving that He does exist (that is, by denying the Lord they are admitting the reality of the God in occultation, the Non-Creator; hence, without realising it, they express the recognition of His opposite “The living God”, the Creator)."
Exactly. Bravo. Cheers. Applause. Roses.
Thank you for a stimulating conversation and an outstanding reveille.
Godly Cheers!
Bonjour Max,
ReplyDeleteOn peut choisir d'aimer la lumière, mais il faudra prendre l'obscurité avec... et le mieux serait de l'aimer.
Prendre le tout, en toute conscience... Être.
Tendre soirée
Sérénity
Hi Max,
ReplyDeleteGod is also known as the Greatest Spirit for He's the combination of all of us (dead and alive); hence each and one of us is a portion of Him. Therefore, when one denies God's existence, it is in fact denying its own existence.
God doesn't mind whether one believes in Him or not; cares for Him or not. Even if one believes to be in charge/control of its own life/destiny, it couldn't be farther from the truth for He's the Ultimate Power, since He controls the answer to the question that overwhelms each and every one of us, throughout life: Is there anything after life?
Yeah, Max...there is God out there and if He were a person, He would be as beautiful as you are.
Cheers!!!
Ciao Max,
ReplyDeleteGod is out there whether people like it or not.
People should stop, for a day, to consciously reason with and within themselves. My guess is: they would be surprised at how easy it is to find God.
Atheists like to pretend that they don't believe in the existence of God because the world isn't organised at their whim. Well, tough! The damn galaxy is His and He isn't planning to let go even if it were to prove a point...so, deal with it.
Ciao
Maximus…
ReplyDeleteWhere does one begin with such pronouncements? What is the source and authority upon which you make such declarations? Ok here we go oh Queen of Button Pushing…
The declaration “there is no God” itself is a declaration of the existence of God. It makes an absolute statement requiring omniscience which only God has. Therefore for a person to make such a statement is a claim to be God yet clearly they are not so their statement breaks the logic law of non-contradiction.
God is not a ying yang concept of “Ultimate Balance” or “Perfect Harmony”. You are free to make such an assertion but it is anti-Biblical….God is Light and in Him is found no darkness…there is no need for darkness…
As you are declaring God as a “Non-Creator” it does not seem heretical as you have not appealed to the God of the Bible or the Bible itself you are making your own declarations under your own authority. Therefore your statements are in error but are not technically heretical from the Jesus following perspective.
God chose to enter time and space as Jesus (God is all powerful, correct? He does have freewill, correct? He can choose to do such a thing…and He did so) I am appealing to the Bible as the authority in this matter to what are you appealing for your pronouncements?
We are not victims of ignorance needing to grow our intellect or knowledge we are sinners in need of a savior…
It is clear that there is a God…
For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.
- - Romans 3:20 NLT
Maximus…a very well written and exceptionally interesting article…however you should declare your sources of information ;)
Hi Lady A :D!
ReplyDelete"Love the image."
It is gorgeous, isn't it? I love Angels :).
"If there is no God, there is no us. If there is no us, then who is writing this - God's servant - oh wait, that's us. Atheists are a non prophet organization. They are the first to call God in emergencies."
Now you said it all ^5! So true...I have a cousin who used to say that he was an atheist until the day his son was born with a health problem. He turned to God and now the kid is healthy.
"You make a cogent argument. I think that atheists are preoccupied with God and have suffered an extreme consequence, i.e. death, disaster, illness that causes them to deny God's existence. They don't understand that things happen for a reason and God is the one pulling the stings and bringing the dreams."
*Bowing*. Exactly: they do not understand that there is a reason behind all things and so decide to "rebel" against the Creator (which is worthless, useless and time consuming).
"I like the analogy that God is also the "Non-Creator." Brilliant. I get that on so many levels. God is in all things including "non things." God is everything and God is nothing."
Thank you, I am glad you liked it :D! That is IT: He is everything and nothing. So are we, in a way...aren't we?
"Preach it!"
Can I get an "Amen"?
"Darkness is it's own light."
*nodding in agreement*....
"Exactly. Bravo. Cheers. Applause. Roses."
Thank you *throwing kisses and roses at you*! You are a terrific audience *Bowing*!
"Thank you for a stimulating conversation and an outstanding reveille."
Girl, don't mention it...you and my other readers (and friends) deserve nothing but the best :D!
Lady A, thank you ever so much for sharing your wisdom with us: you rock, girl :D!
Divine Cheers
Bonjour Sérénity :D!
ReplyDeleteÇa va?
"On peut choisir d'aimer la lumière, mais il faudra prendre l'obscurité avec... et le mieux serait de l'aimer."
Absolument: t'as tout compris :D!
"Prendre le tout, en toute conscience... Être."
Exactement! Je suis trés contente que tu aies absorbé la profondeur de ce post: merci :D!
Sérénity, c'est toujours un vrai plaisir d'entendre tes pensées: merci de les avoir partagé avec nous tous :D!
Cheers
Hi Circulus Ciceronis :D!
ReplyDelete"God is also known as the Greatest Spirit for He's the combination of all of us (dead and alive); hence each and one of us is a portion of Him. Therefore, when one denies God's existence, it is in fact denying its own existence."
This is beautiful!! So true...
"God doesn't mind whether one believes in Him or not; cares for Him or not. Even if one believes to be in charge/control of its own life/destiny, it couldn't be farther from the truth for He's the Ultimate Power, since He controls the answer to the question that overwhelms each and every one of us, throughout life: Is there anything after life?"
It depends...I think He cares that One People cares and serves Him. I agree: He does Control the answer to that question. And I personally believe that there is something after life.
"Yeah, Max...there is God out there and if He were a person, He would be as beautiful as you are."
Yes, He is...
Aww, you guys...thank you for your kindness and love *touched face*!
C.C, thank you ever so much for your amazing comment (what a delight) :D!
Cheers
Ciao Dux :D!
ReplyDelete"God is out there whether people like it or not."
I agree.
"People should stop, for a day, to consciously reason with and within themselves. My guess is: they would be surprised at how easy it is to find God."
Absolutely!! This is a very important and useful advice: people should follow it :D!
"Atheists like to pretend that they don't believe in the existence of God because the world isn't organised at their whim. Well, tough! The damn galaxy is His and He isn't planning to let go even if it were to prove a point...so, deal with it."
I love your honest answers: you remind me of someone :)! I will not spoil these words with a comment...they are perfect :D!
Dux Probus, I absolutely loved your comment (as usual)...sheer wisdom: thank you ever so much :D!
Cheers
LSimus :D!
ReplyDelete"Where does one begin with such pronouncements? What is the source and authority upon which you make such declarations? Ok here we go oh Queen of Button Pushing…"
LOL LOL LS, LS, LS...the source is mysticism (now it is up to you to find out which mystical stream); the authority is God Himself :).
"The declaration “there is no God” itself is a declaration of the existence of God."
True. But not all understand this...
"It makes an absolute statement requiring omniscience which only God has. Therefore for a person to make such a statement is a claim to be God yet clearly they are not so their statement breaks the logic law of non-contradiction."
I agree. Are they claiming to be God when they make such statement? Hmmm...
"God is not a ying yang concept of “Ultimate Balance” or “Perfect Harmony”. You are free to make such an assertion but it is anti-Biblical….God is Light and in Him is found no darkness…there is no need for darkness…"
Why not, LS? I don't think it is Anti-Biblical: God, Himself, in the Bible makes reference to Duality and His Duality. In fact, the whole OT is about Duality - not even you can deny this, LSus.
God is Light and as such He created Light, God is Darkness and as such He created Darkness (did He not?).
Darkness is needed (in order to recognise Light); before you saw the Light it was required that you'd see (and live in) Darkness....
"As you are declaring God as a “Non-Creator” it does not seem heretical as you have not appealed to the God of the Bible or the Bible itself you are making your own declarations under your own authority. Therefore your statements are in error but are not technically heretical from the Jesus following perspective."
My friend, God is God...He is One - there is no God of the Bible, or God of the Muslims etc, no...there is Only One. About the authority: it is your opinion, which I respect.
How do you know my statements are in error? How can you know at 100%? I would accept though if you would say "your statement goes against my view of the Divine as a Jesus' follower", but you should not say that it is in error because the Spiritual world goes beyond Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha and others; and the Bible contains not all that IS.
"God chose to enter time and space as Jesus (God is all powerful, correct? He does have freewill, correct? He can choose to do such a thing…and He did so) I am appealing to the Bible as the authority in this matter to what are you appealing for your pronouncements?"
God is all powerful, yes; and because He IS, He has (or had, whichever you prefer) no need to enter time and space as Jesus, nor as anyone else. Jesus was His servant (on which the spirit of Lord rested - meaning that God's Wisdom & understanding was with him), not Himself.
Besides, if Jesus were Hashem he would've united the tribes of Hashem's beloved People...he did not - because that was not the servant's job. That is the job for another servant.
"We are not victims of ignorance needing to grow our intellect or knowledge we are sinners in need of a savior…"
We are born on earth to evolve our intellect, our knowledge, wisdom and understanding. We transgress, yes; when we do no serve God.
"It is clear that there is a God…"
Yes, it is...whenever I speak with and to you :).
"For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. - - Romans 3:20 NLT"
This is a beautiful quote, LS. Thanks for sharing *bowing*.
"Maximus…a very well written and exceptionally interesting article…however you should declare your sources of information ;)"
Thank you so much, LSus *bowing*! LOL I already have, my friend :)!
LSimus, you are an amazing commentator and I missed digladiating you: thanks a million :D!
Cheers
Sometimes I myself wonder is there really God ? But why certain things are made unfair.. etc, etc, etc.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I stick to my pricipal.. do good and avoid evils.
Max, Max, Max:
ReplyDeleteIs there a God? Really, a mere mortal attempting to answer that question is the ultimate ego trip.
First of all, you ask:
Could there be darkness without light? Absolutely. You are trying to create a quandary by stating that the two are opposites. Therefore, you cannot have one without the other. But in the beginning, there was no light. Source: Pure science.
Could there be male without female? Of course. Male and female is a procreation paradigm---not an absolute natural law.
Could there be negative without positive? Yes. Absolutely. Again, you are using semantics to trap the reader in a word quandary. Negative is by definition the opposite of positive, therefore, you can't have one without the other. Tricky, but that isn't the case. Those are only man-made words. In nature the two concepts are mutually exclusive.
Could there be peace without war? No. Please. Of course, there can be peace without war. You're trying to say that war and peace are opposites. But that's not so. War is an aberration, a cancer, a disease of of peace. Sickness, poverty and crime are also aberrations of peace. And like all aberrations, war can be cured through directed intellect.
Max, you have used mere mortal words to try and convince the atheist of the world who say God doesn't exist, that they are actually saying God does exist. But I'm not buying it. And I don't buy your argument either.
The reason I say all of this is because God is not tangible, and therefore cannot be proved or disproved through tangible arguments.
I believe G.O.D is a state of mind. The old idea that those three letters form a verb instead of a noun. Do good and live your life with honor. That's is the answer to the question, Is there a God?
Happy trails.
Hey MAx, This is mindblowing post.. God has a wonderful gift He wants to give you! It's a gift that will help you grow -- if you use it to its full potential.
ReplyDeleteI am getting better now..Hope you are fine as well.
I believe in God, because I gave up on believing in Him, so many times and in so many ways, but not for a second has He ever given up on me or let me down.
ReplyDeleteHey Kbguy :D!
ReplyDelete"Sometimes I myself wonder is there really God ? But why certain things are made unfair.. etc, etc, etc."
That is a normal question...but the only answer I can offer you is: things seem to be unfair, but they are not (there is a reason for everything; being the main reason our personal spiritual growth).
"Anyway, I stick to my pricipal.. do good and avoid evils."
And that is the best way to reflect His Essence in you :).
Kbguy, thank you a million for your comment :D!
Cheers
Hi Swu :D!
ReplyDeleteI will have to divide this comment into two (for Blogger reasons)...
Part I
*rubbing my hands*...let's see what you have brought us this week...
"Max, Max, Max:"
Yes....? lol
"Is there a God? Really, a mere mortal attempting to answer that question is the ultimate ego trip."
Yes, a mere mortal in flesh; yet the spirit is immortal. And the spirit (whose memory lies in the id) is the one containing all the info...not the flesh, and certainly not the ego.
"Could there be darkness without light? Absolutely. You are trying to create a quandary by stating that the two are opposites. Therefore, you cannot have one without the other. But in the beginning, there was no light. Source: Pure science."
Your saying that one cannot be without the other is suffice to me.
HA, science...it is not absolute; and I do not trust it entirely to explain the origin of things (because it fails in doing so).
"Could there be male without female? Of course. Male and female is a procreation paradigm---not an absolute natural law."
Swu, even gays have the male and female principle in them. I was not referring to the procreation paradigm - I see beyond flesh (I prefer looking into the soul of people).
The absolute...there is no such thing on earth.
"Could there be negative without positive? Yes. Absolutely. Again, you are using semantics to trap the reader in a word quandary. Negative is by definition the opposite of positive, therefore, you can't have one without the other. Tricky, but that isn't the case. Those are only man-made words. In nature the two concepts are mutually exclusive."
Swu, if "negative is by definition the opposite of positive, therefore, you can't have one without the other" how can you say that "Yes" there could be negative without positive? The world is made of opposites, this is one simple truth...even science will tell us this, yes? If we have negative we will immediately have positive.
"Man-made words"...I could accept this...but in that case why do humans get offended with racist remarks, with awful words uttered against their family; insults and etc? Since they are man-made words we should just ignore them...yet most do not, they take them to heart.
(To be continued)...
Swu,
ReplyDeletePart II
"Could there be peace without war? No. Please. Of course, there can be peace without war. You're trying to say that war and peace are opposites. But that's not so. War is an aberration, a cancer, a disease of of peace. Sickness, poverty and crime are also aberrations of peace. And like all aberrations, war can be cured through directed intellect."
If we enjoy peace in Europe (for example), today, is because many wars were fought, period.
Sickness, poverty and crime are aberrations of peace...yes; but what are the opposites of these within peace? Sickness, poverty and crime are also aberrations of war; and yet there is their oppositive within war.
Opposites are intertwined, whether one believes it or not.
"Max, you have used mere mortal words to try and convince the atheist of the world who say God doesn't exist, that they are actually saying God does exist. But I'm not buying it. And I don't buy your argument either."
It's ok...you don't have to buy my argument. The fact is that whenever an atheist denies God, it is proving His existence - whether it chooses to believe in it or not.
An atheist's lack of understanding (although I prefer to say acceptance) of the spiritual world does not obliterate the Truth.
"The reason I say all of this is because God is not tangible, and therefore cannot be proved or disproved through tangible arguments."
True, God is incorporeal; yet He dwells in all of us.
Arguments...words...they are nothing near the Truth that rests within.
Most call it God, others call it Strength (that force that keeps us moving forward when the world seems to have beaten us up), others call it the Great Spirit, the Supreme Intelligence, the Force, etc etc...but in the end, it is all the same.
"I believe G.O.D is a state of mind. The old idea that those three letters form a verb instead of a noun. Do good and live your life with honor. That's is the answer to the question, Is there a God?"
If it works for you, it is fine. Those three words do not form a verb, yet God is the Verb (meaning that at His Word all things happen) [and mind you, I speak not of the Christian theory].
Exactly, doing good and living one's life with honour is the reflection of God's Essence in itself. So, you just have agreed that there is a God :).
Wooooohooo, Swu...Mega comment, man!! I absolutely loved it: thank you :D!
Cheers
Hey Angel :D!
ReplyDelete"Hey MAx, This is mindblowing post.. God has a wonderful gift He wants to give you! It's a gift that will help you grow -- if you use it to its full potential."
You know how things are done here at the MAX *bowing*. I utterly agree with you, darling.
"I am getting better now..Hope you are fine as well."
That is good news, sweetie *tender face*! Hang in there and be filled by the Light :).
I am fine, thank you.
Angel, my darling, thanks a million for your input :D!
Cheers
Angel,
ReplyDelete"I believe in God, because I gave up on believing in Him, so many times and in so many ways, but not for a second has He ever given up on me or let me down."
Amen, girl! God Loves you, you know that :D!
Cheers
Max, Thanks again.. Hey I forgot to tell you I love the image.. It's so beautiful
ReplyDeleteI do believe there is a 'higher power' - something beyond ourself that gives the meaning of life and that we all are connected in that meaning.
ReplyDeleteMy problem is all this religion interpreters claiming their God is the only one and the curse of discord it makes in the world.
I think the go(o)d must start in ourself and in respect to understand others the way they are. I mean it's hard to love and care for others if you can't love yourself.
So in dealing with people, my basic theses is: In mutual trust for equal opportunities.
Max:
ReplyDeleteOkay. Let's have a drink and move on. I'm exhausted.
Happy trails.
It's funny that, as an atheist, I don't deny nor agree with God's existence. To me, the debate is almost pointless, in one way or another. If there is anything above, do we really need a prove? And if there isn't, or if someone tries to prove there isn't, will all the believers lose their faith?
ReplyDeleteTo me, faith just is. Some have it, some don't.
I respect those who have faith in a God, no matter which one. I think we have all faith in something - I believe I have faith in mankind. Best I can do.
Faith is hope, and we all have hope. I don't understand rituals, such as the Mass, Xmas, the Ramadan, Shabbat etc. That's all. I don't understand organized religions. But I still believe in something... mankind.
To: Swubird…
ReplyDeleteCC: Max
I have been looking at your conversation. Swu while I think you do a pretty good job at dissecting parts of Max’s “argument” I think there is a couple things I would differ with (gentlemanly speaking).
Let me mention one of them here….
You said:
“The reason I say all of this is because God is not tangible, and therefore cannot be proved or disproved through tangible arguments.”
I think that what you say here has some merit...however…what if God chose to enter time and space and act tangibly with humans?
What if as the Bible says God in the person of Jesus chose to show himself to us, not because we deserve it but because He by His freewill determined to do so? We no longer have humans reaching up to God but God reaching down to humans...in a tangible knowable way. This would be evidence not “mere” argument.
Angel,
ReplyDeleteAny time, dear :)!
Ah, it is a beautiful angel, isn't it? I love it too :D!
Have a great weekend!
Cheers
Hey Renny :D!
ReplyDelete"I do believe there is a 'higher power' - something beyond ourself that gives the meaning of life and that we all are connected in that meaning."
*nodding in agreement*...
"My problem is all this religion interpreters claiming their God is the only one and the curse of discord it makes in the world."
I agree with you. There is Only One God, period.
Humans create discord, not in the name of God (although they claim to be) but in the name of their own agenda (if you know what I mean).
"I think the go(o)d must start in ourself and in respect to understand others the way they are. I mean it's hard to love and care for others if you can't love yourself."
So true, my friend...so true.
"So in dealing with people, my basic theses is: In mutual trust for equal opportunities."
I like your thesis.
Renny, thank you so so much for having shared your thoughts on this issue: I loved it :D!
Cheers
Swu,
ReplyDeleteLOL ok...let's have a drink and relax :)!
Happy trails to you too, my friend :D!
Hey Zhu :D!
ReplyDelete"It's funny that, as an atheist, I don't deny nor agree with God's existence. To me, the debate is almost pointless, in one way or another. If there is anything above, do we really need a prove? And if there isn't, or if someone tries to prove there isn't, will all the believers lose their faith?"
Darling, I will be honest with you (because I have been trying to analyse you for quite some time, and I have noticed that you do not deny God's existence): I do not think you are an atheist, perhaps you fall into the category of an agnostic?
Because, by definition, an atheist is someone who denies the existence of God (although you know what I think of this - as we discussed in your blog); whereas an agnostic believes that the answer to His existence cannot be known with certainty (and I think this is closer to what you display to us)....but I may be wrong ;).
"To me, faith just is. Some have it, some don't."
I can understand that...
"I respect those who have faith in a God, no matter which one. I think we have all faith in something - I believe I have faith in mankind. Best I can do."
There is only One God - despite what most religions might say.
Girl, if you have faith in mankind then you do your part of the bargain (and I could tell you that having such faith is part of expressing God's Essence in you) :).
"Faith is hope, and we all have hope. I don't understand rituals, such as the Mass, Xmas, the Ramadan, Shabbat etc. That's all. I don't understand organized religions. But I still believe in something... mankind."
I agree. I can surely understand that, girl. As long as you keep believing...
Zhu, amazing comment, by God....thank you so much :D!
Cheers
You too have a good weekend Max..
ReplyDeleteLove always
Angel,
ReplyDeleteThanks :D!
Much Love
So people have faith or they don't....but do you think that their beliefs one way or the other are part of their make-up? Socio-economic standing or Background???? Trials and tribulations??
ReplyDeleteHow are you Dear Max???
I have been in hiding trying to sort out my home from a horrible move, and my life from a rough year! But I am slowly emerging from hibernation!!
I hope that all is well ! “See” you soon!!!
Max,
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what to say about??? You put the concept of "God" into that of science in the basic concept of for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, ying and yang.................
I would be interested in seeing how a true atheist with a logical mind, addresses this argument
"God is a concept, by which we can measure our pain..."(John Lennon)
ReplyDeleteAnd I add, is a concept created by men because we tend to believe we're are low ones. We need to believe in something or someone superior! We have to balieve that our lives were not in vain.
I'm a physicist and I believe in Energy. Matter is Energy and vice-versa. The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore the sum of all the energies in the system is a constant. (Would that constant be God?)
We learned how to manipulated it for good or for bad, and everything in the universe is in transformation, and we're part of that energy... Everything is part of that energy!
That energy has tranformed the whole universe since the beggining (Big bang) and life popped up from that.
I can't figure out someone superior the way people do. There's no God, it's just a question of matter and energy.
Lol, Max with the controversial posts once again.
ReplyDeleteThere was a day when I was a lot younger when I was going to convert everybody to Christianity, my way of thinking the right way,lol, whether it be JW's or Mormons or what have you.
I learned real fast I had to know the bible and how it differentiated from the as I called them, the cult books.
With Atheists it's a different ball game, they don't believe the Bible is the ultimate authority, just a book of nice stories, so I had to approach them differently, with love and understanding where they were coming from, we are after all a result of our life experiences, we aren't born Christian, Mormon, JW or Atheist, we grow through our life experiences to become who we are today.
God gave us all the need for something,(a hole in our heart, so to speak), we don't know what, we just have the basic questions, where did I come from and what is my purpose here, even the atheist has those questions deep down inside and although on the outside they think and tell you they have the answers, they know they don't and are searching, live by example and it will bug the hell out of them and eventually they will start asking veiled questions, I've lived and experienced it.
Max I love your comparisons and understand the symbolic meaning to them. True we can have darkness without light and have positive without negative but really we can't can we, we give these reactions or results names because there is a need for them, if we just had positive we wouldn't need the terms positive and negative, probably would have called the first term positive something totally different, if you know what I mean, I'm kinda rambling here.
Thanks for the interesting post Max, you always have a unique way of looking at things, as do I,lol.
Hey Genevieve :D!
ReplyDelete"So people have faith or they don't....but do you think that their beliefs one way or the other are part of their make-up? Socio-economic standing or Background???? Trials and tribulations??"
That is true as well (they have and they do not - the question is...what Divine purpose is behind of those who apparently do not have faith?). In sme cases, religious beliefs are a make-up: because they haven't consciously chosen the path they walk in - know what I mean?
But when you choose a religion (or even a spiritual life) based on reason...then no, it is not part of the make-up.
"How are you Dear Max???"
I am well, darling; I am well...thank you! And how have you been?
"I have been in hiding trying to sort out my home from a horrible move, and my life from a rough year! But I am slowly emerging from hibernation!! I hope that all is well ! “See” you soon!!!"
Oh my...you have had a busy and tough year. But what matters is that you are back, and I am happy about it :D!
Darling, thank you for your comment and welcome back :D!
Cheers
Hi Mel :D!
ReplyDelete"I'm not sure what to say about??? You put the concept of "God" into that of science in the basic concept of for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, ying and yang................."
You are kind...an atheist would say that there is no science in my words...only dellusions.
"I would be interested in seeing how a true atheist with a logical mind, addresses this argument"
Mel, "atheist" and "logical mind" is an oxymoron...but I know what you mean.
My dear friend, thank you so much for your comment; it was nice to see you :D!
Cheers
Hey Cidão :D!
ReplyDelete""God is a concept, by which we can measure our pain..."(John Lennon)"
True...but by which we can measure our joy as well.
"And I add, is a concept created by men because we tend to believe we're are low ones. We need to believe in something or someone superior! We have to balieve that our lives were not in vain."
Interesting argument...so, do "we have to" or do "we need to" believe? What about knowing?
Another question: why would our lives be in vain? Everything has a purpose nothing is in vain.
"I'm a physicist and I believe in Energy."
I am not a physicist and I believe in Energy (Energy with a capital E as a reference to God - the Supreme Energy). We are energy, everything is energy.
"Matter is Energy and vice-versa."
I agree.
"The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore the sum of all the energies in the system is a constant. (Would that constant be God?)"
Yes, that "constant" could be described as being part of God.
"We learned how to manipulated it for good or for bad, and everything in the universe is in transformation, and we're part of that energy... Everything is part of that energy! That energy has tranformed the whole universe since the beggining (Big bang) and life popped up from that."
I read you. I do not disagree...but Who planned the beginning of all things? Who created the very first cell? Who is the origin of all life?
"I can't figure out someone superior the way people do. There's no God, it's just a question of matter and energy."
Cidão, you just proved that there IS a God (through your denial and delightful lesson)...but I understand that your "destiny" is to serve Him in a different way (in a way that is occulted to your own self)...
Gato Cid, thank you thank you thank you for this amazing comment: I loved it :D!
Beijos
Hey Bob :D!
ReplyDelete"Lol, Max with the controversial posts once again."
LOL...soon I will give you guys a rest, don't worry ;).
"There was a day when I was a lot younger when I was going to convert everybody to Christianity, my way of thinking the right way,lol, whether it be JW's or Mormons or what have you."
lol Really? My granny tried to convert me to Christianity...but with no success. I think we must be destined to follow certain paths...otherwise, we just won't no matter how hard people try.
"I learned real fast I had to know the bible and how it differentiated from the as I called them, the cult books."
True - the Bible is different.
"With Atheists it's a different ball game, they don't believe the Bible is the ultimate authority, just a book of nice stories, so I had to approach them differently, with love and understanding where they were coming from, we are after all a result of our life experiences, we aren't born Christian, Mormon, JW or Atheist, we grow through our life experiences to become who we are today."
Again, true. When debating with the so-called atheists it is useless to use Bible language because they do not view it as The Book. "just a book of nice stories" LOL LOL some of them think it is a nasty book filled with violance and rape *nodding*.
Well, some are born into Christianity, but not Christians...true. I concur with you, Lord of the Astropics.
"God gave us all the need for something,(a hole in our heart, so to speak), we don't know what, we just have the basic questions, where did I come from and what is my purpose here, even the atheist has those questions deep down inside and although on the outside they think and tell you they have the answers, they know they don't and are searching, live by example and it will bug the hell out of them and eventually they will start asking veiled questions, I've lived and experienced it."
This is beautiful!! Let me not ruin it with words...
"Max I love your comparisons and understand the symbolic meaning to them. True we can have darkness without light and have positive without negative but really we can't can we, we give these reactions or results names because there is a need for them, if we just had positive we wouldn't need the terms positive and negative, probably would have called the first term positive something totally different, if you know what I mean, I'm kinda rambling here."
*nodding in agreement*....Bob, I know exactly what you mean. Well, I love it when you ramble lol :).
"Thanks for the interesting post Max, you always have a unique way of looking at things, as do I,lol."
Don't mention it, Lord of the Astrostuff *bowing*! Yes, you do...:)
Bob, thank you so much for your super comment and for your generous words: I appreciate it :D!
Cheers
That is it Max, I am giving you PhD in Bible even though I probably have none of authority, lol - you make lot of sens girl, I love the fact of opposites you have mentioned. Even if I wanted to I cannot argue with you girl. But you know I am just living a life, I get really confused when I analyze things so I just leave God in heaven to do this part, and I do my part here on earth, lol. Great post, as always. Anna :)
ReplyDeleteOh Yes! I should have commented on this long ago my friend, but not having the intestinal fortitude of the ones that stand by their convictions, be they believers or non-believers, I held out, that is, until my conscience got the better of me. You see I’m a hypocrite; a believer one minute and an atheist the next.
ReplyDeleteTake Care,
Peter
Hey Anna :D!
ReplyDelete"That is it Max, I am giving you PhD in Bible even though I probably have none of authority, lol - you make lot of sens girl, I love the fact of opposites you have mentioned."
LOL thanks, darling (it's the thought that counts) ;)! I am glad somebody thinks I make sense LOL... ;)
Oh, the law of the opposites...it is rather interesting and obvious, isn't it?
"Even if I wanted to I cannot argue with you girl. But you know I am just living a life, I get really confused when I analyze things so I just leave God in heaven to do this part, and I do my part here on earth, lol. Great post, as always."
That sounds pretty good to me, Anna :). Thanks, girl :D!
Anna, thank you so much for your comment and support :D!
Cheers
Hey Peter :D!
ReplyDelete"Oh Yes! I should have commented on this long ago my friend, but not having the intestinal fortitude of the ones that stand by their convictions, be they believers or non-believers, I held out, that is, until my conscience got the better of me. You see I’m a hypocrite; a believer one minute and an atheist the next."
LOL Pete, you kill me! I'd say that you are not a hypocrite, I'd rather state that you (sometimes) experience a duality within, which is fine and normal.
Plus, since I do not believe in atheism I'd say that you simply struggle with the Lord sometimes (and who doesn't?) ;D!
Peter, thank you ever so much for your direct comment: I appreciated it :D!
Cheers